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Fox
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Yogie, its unusual but it means I can flat pac it under the quad on the ute for long trips I will be able to carry up to 100 ltrs of fuel and my gear.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: Trailers Reply with quote Back to top

Hubs and axle are to be decided. wheels may be the front ones of the Brute not sure yet,
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Nice thinking Fox. I like the treg style coupling. You just going solid axle?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm looking for insperation !!!!! any Idea's






I had to make this up, caravan ones are to big.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Live axle, coupla panhard type locating rods, small coils over shocks. That might take away from the flat pack idea though.
Or a leaf trailing arms. Or old VW torsion axle.
Axle location and suspension in one. Very KISS.
You may be able to get them from the wreckers.
As Yogie said, your welding looks pretty good.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Dino I havent finished welding yet have to do some tidy up work,I'm thinking of going to the wreckers and spend some time looking for ideas
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:29 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

is that a leaf spring cut up ???? good idea, I'll be using that in the future. eek
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes Yogie, it will give a bit with the rubber insert, strong as hell cheep to. If you are going to use it for heavy work take the rubbers out and weld the fold, Then put the rubbers back, it gives me three way movement.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Earthmover wrote:
check this one out what you think

http://www.ali-lite.com.au/deluxe.htm


That's a neat little unit. 8" wheels may be a bit small for off-road though. Certainly light and cheap enough.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:32 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi fox, what are the diamensions of your trailer, i.e length and width of cargo area, and the draw bar length., did you use 50x50 or 40x40 box tube ???
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

been thinking of using this some how ??????? well two of them. eek


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/new-rear-shock-absorber-for-trail-atv-dirt-bike-crf50_W0QQitemZ290393880370QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item439cd2f732
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American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
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honda thumb
Great at climbing trees Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:47 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks Outback I have been to see them thats where I saw the Torsion system in this pic.--Yogie, The side base rails are 4o mil x 1200 - the cross base rails are 40 mil x 600 - the draw bar is 50 mil x 1230 and forward of the frame by 730 - the two tri bracings are 40 mil x 530 there is a centre brace as well cut to fit when you have made the outer frame. It crossed my mind to go shocks I'm still thinking. This is what I wan't no springs or shocks neat !!!!!!!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fox wrote:
Thanks Outback I have been to see them thats where I saw the Torsion system in this pic.--Yogie, The side base rails are 4o mil x 1200 - the cross base rails are 40 mil x 600 - the draw bar is 50 mil x 1230 and forward of the frame by 730 - the two tri bracings are 40 mil x 530 there is a centre brace as well cut to fit when you have made the outer frame. It crossed my mind to go shocks I'm still thinking. This is what I wan't no springs or shocks neat !!!!!!!


Very neat and tidy, But what about hubs ? what wheel types are availible, would/do they come to suit Grizz ? Rolls eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thats the stage im at just finding out,my Kawa wheels are 80mil centre to centre stud and so are the 4 stud hubs at super cheep auto I will take my wheel down to make sure. Yogie the bloke at the trailer place said he can do just about any wheel hub,
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fox iam sure you will pick the right suspention .i looked at the torsion system .but really was trial and error for me as to what weight we were going to carry. i had ended up putting the springs on top of the axle and putting an extra leaf in . only because ive put mudgaurds on .

ive seen to many people make the mistake of making trailers to stiff .

To stiff it will bouce you all over the place fully loaded. but iam sure you know that . make sure the suspention does the work and you have some give when its loaded softer if better,

your trailer looks good more creative than mine .
By the way lake Ayre might get water in it again .
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That is a flamin top job mate, congratulations. You have given me a few ideas for mine. I am thinking of coil springs for mine, will see what i come up with. Keep us posted on ya progress, will be good to see the finished product.

Nice to have a TV to watch while ya work eh?

Cheers.......................Pete! laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:31 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks everyone, What started out as a time filler has turned to (I want it finished now) But all's good,I start back to work tomorow Wed- Australia day -today- I'm going to work and paint the Trailer and get that part done, and after I get a couple of wages under my belt ill buy the axle's hubs etc. And yes the tele is handy. My shed room varies with how much Gym Equipment my wife hires out some times I have the whole shed and other times just a corner. I hope you all have a good Australia Day +++++++++ Outback when the trailer is done and before winter I would like to do another ride,There are two more Grizzly's coming on board soon to the 4x4 side of riding..




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: Paint Reply with quote Back to top

Tis all done waiting for Axles Hubs and Susp?????
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Paint Reply with quote Back to top

Fox wrote:
Tis all done waiting for Axles Hubs and Susp?????


so what have you decided on the hubs (stud pattern) Confused
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honda thumb
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Still thinking got a couple of weeks to go yet, But I think I will go with the Torsion system and my front wheels of the Brute with 26" tyres if there not to high All these If n buts,
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Best one I have found, it's the same size as my Honda perfect.
the catch is it's close to $13,000 or (9 Gs) just the pod trailer like I'd Bash that through the Bush



http://www.forsalebytender.com/new_page_5.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fox wrote:
Still thinking got a couple of weeks to go yet, But I think I will go with the Torsion system and my front wheels of the Brute with 26" tyres if there not to high All these If n buts,

You could always step the draw bar down if you needed the trailer to tow level. Plant trailers and old single pole timber jinkers were built like that for the same reason.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:01 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dino wrote:
Fox wrote:
Still thinking got a couple of weeks to go yet, But I think I will go with the Torsion system and my front wheels of the Brute with 26" tyres if there not to high All these If n buts,

You could always step the draw bar down if you needed the trailer to tow level. Plant trailers and old single pole timber jinkers were built like that for the same reason.

that is the best way to go with offroaders that or dolly axle under the front. I found this one on Ebay $150 4 wheel steering

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Fox
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Neat I like the 4 wheel steering, there are a lot of 4 wheel ATV trailers on U-tube they seem to like 4 wheelers in the states, most of the expensive trailers have 4 wheels.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So Fox. Any update on your trailer? It was looking impressive. Smile
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