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Ozy
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Can anyone offer me some advice please.
I have a 2008 DS450x, it seems to get hot pretty easy and goes into "limp home mode". The fan comes on ok and the coolant is full and the radiator clear etc, it does not even get hot enough to lose the coolant.
Has anyone had any experience with "engine ice", does this stuff really work?
Any advice & tricks appreciated. I know they shut down pretty quick if the radiator gets blocked with mud, (but this is not my problem at the moment) so would love to know what people have done to protect this as well.
Thanks
Ozy
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Huskygoat
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There is a product of BELRAY NO TOX its better in the heat. Have you put a pipe on it? changed the fuel controller?
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Yeah it's an easy fix mate just take it back to your dealer and get them to hook it up to the computer and upload the update for the limp home mode and that should fix it. Just to be safe run water wetter coolent in it. They are the only mods done to mine and never had a problem since. Except for the nats when i blocked the radiator up.
Let us know how you go and if you need anymore info just ask
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jumbo danny
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:07 am Post subject: CAN AM with problems??? |
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Hummmmm, 
didn't think you where aloud to post problems ?
and can am didn't ring you to inform that there is a problem,
lots of people bagged ktm for ringing and mailing owners may be because it wasn't life threatening that makes sense at least you can limp home good one can am!! 
SMITTY'S still a legend , have a good wedding and a nice honeymoon you pair see you guys soon 
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Huummmmm thats why they don't win much  stuck in limp mode and nobody told there riders (sorry oh great one couldn't resist)
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: Re: CAN AM with problems??? |
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| jumbo danny wrote: | Hummmmm,
didn't think you where aloud to post problems ?
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Bullsh!t I have no secrets in my camp I think the more we help guys like Ozy out the better it is for everybody.
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Thats true Cowchaser you can't say anything negative about Can am or it will removed from the site. Just ask your team X boss Mick. you were down milking when that happened
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OZ_450
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| Huskygoat wrote: | | Huummmmm thats why they don't win much stuck in limp mode and nobody told there riders (sorry oh great one couldn't resist) |
haaa goat but they werent like polaris and went through how many motors to win geee i think lb and azza used 2 bikes to race most meetings as they needed both when their motors went BANGO damn polaris tool kit musty have SPARE MOTOR haha
sorry couldnt resist lol ,,,,, most can am riders i did see race did finish though
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Ozy
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: CAN AM with problems??? |
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| cowchaser wrote: | | jumbo danny wrote: | Hummmmm,
didn't think you where aloud to post problems ?
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Thanks mate, couldnt agree more. Can you clarify a bit more info for me on the "water wetter coolant" you refer too. Is that what is actually called? Do you get it from a bike shop or elsewhere?
cheers
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: wetter water/KY gel?? |
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local drug store its KY gel
ha ha sorry guys
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Hey Ozy, Smitty's got it.
The standard 'limp home' setings were way to conservtive on the early 08 models up to a certain VIN number that your dealer can confirm.
The later setting is something like 8 degrees higher and also allows 7000rpm limp instead of 5500rpm.
I don't know how much difference the trick coolants make if anything.
The old glycol transfers heat pretty well.
The higher temp setting should see you right.
Refer your dealer to Buletin 2008-2.
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| OZ_450 wrote: | | Huskygoat wrote: | | Huummmmm thats why they don't win much stuck in limp mode and nobody told there riders (sorry oh great one couldn't resist) |
haaa goat but they werent like polaris and went through how many motors to win geee i think lb and azza used 2 bikes to race most meetings as they needed both when their motors went BANGO damn polaris tool kit musty have SPARE MOTOR haha
sorry couldnt resist lol ,,,,, most can am riders i did see race did finish though |
really "profanity removed" i guess i must have missed those races, not gonna say we never had problems but think about the "profanity removed" you type before you do it, cant win races blowing up motors so i guess we didn't win any races ??????????????????????
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: Re: CAN AM with problems??? |
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| Ozy wrote: | | cowchaser wrote: | | jumbo danny wrote: | Hummmmm,
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Thanks mate, couldnt agree more. Can you clarify a bit more info for me on the "water wetter coolant" you refer too. Is that what is actually called? Do you get it from a bike shop or elsewhere?
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PeteW can tell you more about it all I know is that is drops engine temp by about 10% over standard coolent. Wadey on this forum stocks it
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Huskygoat
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Don't stress luke just having a bit of fun. WE all know KTM stands for Keep throwing money HA HA And Suzi use baby oil in their gearbox's :lo If they don't treat them like babies (cuddley) they go crunch. Hey Ozy did your dealer sell boats? they developed a new boat anchor in NT its called a DS 450
Please don't any this to serious just jokes going around my work shop.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Overheating DS450 |
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| Ozy wrote: | Can anyone offer me some advice please.
I have a 2008 DS450x, it seems to get hot pretty easy and goes into "limp home mode". The fan comes on ok and the coolant is full and the radiator clear etc, it does not even get hot enough to lose the coolant.
Has anyone had any experience with "engine ice", does this stuff really work?
Any advice & tricks appreciated. I know they shut down pretty quick if the radiator gets blocked with mud, (but this is not my problem at the moment) so would love to know what people have done to protect this as well.
Thanks
Ozy |
Like Cowchaser said there is a software upgrade for the early 08 ECU's that increases the temperature that the "limp home" mode activates and also the rev limit for the limp home mode.
We had this problem, also not related to a blocked radiator and with pretty much only a change to Redline Water Wetter coolant additive (http://www.redlineoil.com.au/)rather than running Glycol based coolant and no more probs (except when the rad gets completely filled in with mud but that is a problem on any model, the limp home mode on the Can-Am is there to protect from major damage resulting from runnning over temp for extended periods of time)
I have used Engine Ice before as well and it does make some difference but it is still a glycol based coolant. Water Wetter is not glycol based and therefore does not have any anti-freeze properties and works best when added only to water but it can be added to glycol based coolants as well.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: cool |
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just what i need
thanks guy see forums can be rather good source to get helpful information
does husky drink this during the day to keep his kool up the in the north, hum secret weapon might have to put some in the camel back for finke!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: cool |
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| jumbo danny wrote: | just what i need
thanks guy see forums can be rather good source to get helpful information
does husky drink this during the day to keep his kool up the in the north, hum secret weapon might have to put some in the camel back for finke! |
It smells nice, tastes a bit soapy though
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Nice work everyone. Hope these comments fix your problem Ozy.
Mick@47
P.S. Nice try Husky, I nearly bit! You will have to try a little harder next time. If only we could harness your powers for good instead of evil....LOL
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| Huskygoat wrote: | Don't stress luke just having a bit of fun. WE all know KTM stands for Keep throwing money HA HA And Suzi use baby oil in their gearbox's :lo If they don't treat them like babies (cuddley) they go crunch. Hey Ozy did your dealer sell boats? they developed a new boat anchor in NT its called a DS 450
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Is there any particular brand of baby oil Husky? Might be where I've been going wrong
You would have a pretty good supply wouldn't you.....or do you ride with your padded seat cover all the time ????
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I have a patent on it now so you can't steal it
Baby oil mineral base is the go.
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| lukeb wrote: | | OZ_450 wrote: | | Huskygoat wrote: | | Huummmmm thats why they don't win much stuck in limp mode and nobody told there riders (sorry oh great one couldn't resist) |
haaa goat but they werent like polaris and went through how many motors to win geee i think lb and azza used 2 bikes to race most meetings as they needed both when their motors went BANGO damn polaris tool kit musty have SPARE MOTOR haha
sorry couldnt resist lol ,,,,, most can am riders i did see race did finish though |
really "profanity removed" i guess i must have missed those races, not gonna say we never had problems but think about the "profanity removed" you type before you do it, cant win races blowing up motors so i guess we didn't win any races ?????????????????????? |
haha LB was a joke lol haha as husky said everyone pokes fun at other brands dont get your g string in a knot now hahaa
was no harm intended
i intended to do a post reply after i posted this but due to a family crisis it was forgotten about . sorry to anyone who took this to heart or as a insult or anyway other then a joke ...... LB sorry for any trouble it caused
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