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[Wild 727]

How about the banshee 421cc who built that?
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[yogie]

trx440_fatboy wrote:

saw a banshee on one web sit the other day that reckoned had 90hp and would do 180?? "profanity removed" that if its true...!!! death

There is a Banshee in Vic that is 100hp and on his Vapour type speedo thingy... And it records top speeds, and his top speed is recored at 210 And its been set up correctly and was drag racing a SS comadore at the time. And the Vic guys know how "GOOD" this goes.
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[WRONG BET 450]

I think that the 86hp bike needs to make a a statement cause he is being thrashed.
Ouch i can feel that it HURTS!
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[Wild 727]

Well i know i would back up my statement if i published through out OZ.
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[cowchaser]

One thing the yanks have over us here in OZ is the quality of the fuel that they can get wich in turn mean that they can run higher compression = HP
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[PeteW]

there is a fair difference in the HP figures quoted when measured on an engine dyno vs chassis dyno. The final drive on a quad will rob a fair bit of HP by the time it goes through an O ring chain and drives an axle sitting in a big bearing carrier into 2 x 11inch wide tyres your probalby looking at a 10-15% loss in power.

I'm pretty sure that Mr Tomlins HP figures are measured on an engine dyno hence the higher claims than would be expected.
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[Ozzy84]

in addition, power car increase/decrease depending on alot of factors, temperature, traction, wheel diameter, gearing etc, very inaccurate

[HSR]

It all depends on the dyno, the operator, the outcome they wish to achive if you want high HP figures use an inertia drum type and you will get high HP outcomes, use a dynamic brake/load type and you can create the peak power where you want, in which gear what load criteria etc. high HP figures have nothing to do with accelleration TORQUE is what makes for good drag racing, off corner performance,the sensation of speed you feel when you open the taps, HP will maintain the speed when resistance has been defeated (gravity, wind, traction) but dyno figures can be made to LIE it all depends on what result you want, on track performance is absolute, so let`s see how fast they go on the track whether drag racing (reaction time is critical to out come not high HP outputs) road racing (high corner speeds are critical to fast lap times) motocross (drive off turns is critical to fast laps ) but remember high rear wheel out puts if not controlled create wheelspin and that is the enemy of all fast times.
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[Todd 127]

If you think your quad is the baddest, lets have a DYNO DAY and see what horsepower figures it actually puts out, i have speed racers that we use for dynoing, i will supply these tyres and rims to fit whatever quad you have.

The dyno is at HI COMP ENGINES in Minchinbury, lets organise a day and see if some of these bikes put out what they claim !!!

[Wild 727]

Great Point But answer this if a bike that makes 86hp and a R1 makes 140hp in a banshee and they are both set up for drags and the 86hp bike wins does that mean that the dyno lies.
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[WRONG BET 450]

Who Cares about the numbers if you cant get there first you can have 200hp.
But remeber this it dosent matter how you win as long as you win.
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[HSR]

It all depends on traction , controlling wheelspin, reaction times.
It is not a matter of whether the dyno lies, if I try to put 140 hp to the ground through a 10 inch footprint and create wheelspin for the entire journey I LOOSE MOMENTUM, if I have 86HP through the same footprint and get no wheelspin I gain momentum, Drag racers who are serious about going fast with really big torque outputs use progressive clutches and when they talk about tuning to the track it is the clutch take up and not the engine they try to tune (the engine has a pre determined amount of torque/horsepower created by the engineering done in the workshop before the meeting ( this out put can be marginally altered by fuel ratio`s air temp and humidity but usually is predetermined) they do this to limit wheelspin or tyre shake as they like to call it, wheelspin anywhere but the burn out is the greatest enemy the drag racer faces, apart from red lights and slow reaction times
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[WRONG BET 450]

What do u think your racing top fuel Dragsters
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[HSR]

mate if you cannot get the power you a making to the ground effectively it don`t matter whether it`s a top fueller or a Z50 if you race apples for apples you loose
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[WRONG BET 450]

Cool so come and show me how you put the power to the ground when im throwing a 30ft rooster with 14 pad skat traks bud!!!!
You wana put power the down, line me up and ill show you all how you power down.
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[Wild 727]

Bring your whippa snipper & hedger out so i can trim your edges and then illuse my bloa to get rid of you.
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[pred_29]

it sounds like wrong bet is real keen to race,i hope your a good looser.im sure you will win some too

[Wild 727]

pred_29 wrote:

it sounds like wrong bet is real keen to race,i hope your a good looser.im sure you will win some too

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[WRONG BET 450]

Pred were did you pop from you riding a farm bike.Yeh.
And for you wild 727 tomlin take your money too.
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[HSR]

Man 10k you got ripped, wanna race me around a MX track all that engine and no suspension good luck because I wont throw 30ft roosts , ashpalt drag maybe , sand drag probably, supermoto maybe not, enduro I don`t think so, MX let`s go (because that`s what my bike is set up for ) bragging about horse power don`t mean "profanity removed" turn it into results so people can see/read about it, not how high you can throw a roost, if I had paddle tyres in sand I could probably throw a roost too, doesn`t appear to be that hard
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[Ozzy84]

as long as everyone shows up on oct long weekend than all this will be put to the track, no wimping out, i'll be there and my bike is nothing special so i wanna see some of these drag bikes/dyno queens there to

[pred_29]

,farm bike my ass, wrong bet you type to much,ill show up just to race you

[Wild 727]

I think that our mate wrong bet wont show up cause he doesnt even own a bike unless its has peddles.
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[WRONG BET 450]

Wild 727 you need to call tomlin for your next upgrade and 20k.
Pred 29 you can be my tow bike at the end of 200m.
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[KING 727]

Wrong bet you've got a big mouth i hope your engine is as big as your mouth
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