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fredom
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: opinions wanted Reply with quote Back to top

im thinkin of sellin my banshee and buying a four stroke quad which is the best bike for dollar yfz or the ltr?,my banshee has a new longrod motor t5 pipes vforce reeds ported etc, how would the four strokes compare to this power wise?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

best bang for buck not being biased as i have owned a banshee and then went to a yfz now have lt-r and would have to say the suzuki already wider and lower so saves ya money on a arms , axle for a start straight up ( plus mx tyres is ya gunna race) other advantages are their shocks can be rebuilt to perform pretty damn good where as the yfz only the rear can be rebuilt to better then stock

i have found the lt-r is a much better feeling quad to ride , very comfy after owning a yfz

the yfz prob has a bit more aggressive power but the lt-r's is a more consistent power curve through gears

thats just IMO

compare to the banshee well i had pc pipes and mufflers , porting , boost bottle , crank kit , head modded , v force reeds , reed spacers , plus more . and the 4 strokes ate it out of corners the shee just wanted to break traction on a wettish tacky track i could give them a fairly good run but they out performed the banshee in handling

remember the banshee hasnt changed for over 15 years in design where as the 4 strokes are newer designed so can and are alot more rider friendly

best advice really is to try and take both for a ride and see which ya like best to suit ya needs
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: my opinon keep the 2 banger Reply with quote Back to top

Evil or Very Mad i would keep the joy of powerband of the shee. CAUSE I'TS NOT FAST WITHOUT MIXED GAS
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I am gunna be biased, go the LTR, better than a Yamahaha anyday. But yeah like OZ 450 said...wider and lower handles great straight out the crate........
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I guess it depends what sort of riding you wanna do they ALL have good and bad points im yet to see an outta the box bike that wants for nothing!!! i have a yfz thats got everything done and i love it, if i was gonna ride up the scrub id swap it for a raptor, so you just need to decide where you want to ride and then try and ride as many bikes that are suited to that type of riding and then make your own mind up wich suits YOU best, the bike i like isnt necessarily right for you!! if it was we would ALL have a YFZ!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

would have to go the suzuki if I had a choice, seems to be a better bike than the Yam, even though i ride a Yamaha 700 I would still go the suzuki 450..

Just my opinion, horses for coarses
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

LTR 450
 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Fully Decked ,Honda Honda Honda .
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watty
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

LTR 450
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ltr seems to have taken a big lead (whats new) maybe this should have been a poll.
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truant
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with oz450, after the YFZ the LTR is a much kinder bike on ya body - but then i am getting old - maybe i should get a lounge chair on wheels(700 raptor) - oops there's a can o worms!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eek And let me be the first to open that can laughing well old timer if you are getting to old maybe you should look into a raptor to bring that iner kid back out of you. yes its a lounge chair but it would probly be better than the rocking chair your on now eek Very Happy Smile Very Happy Smile or i dont know wht dont you go on the dark side and get a kwaka 700?? now they look gay hahaha Rolls eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:52 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

now,now is that any way to treat your atvwa ride day sponsor?
which by the way Paul Boult hasnt replied to my email about continuing sponsorship.
me and my rocking chair (and a mate with a raptor 700)! will be at the Barbagallo end of the pines saturday arvo if you want to show me what a lounge chair can do?



and yes those green things do look gay.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eek eek O crud. you sponcer the atvwa club? hows that come about? do/ have you been riding there? eek
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

truant wrote:
- maybe i should get a lounge chair on wheels(700 raptor) - oops there's a can o worms!


dont worry raptor riders, he really meant a KFX700, come on settle down, there's a brave bunch of soldiers... Laughing Laughing Laughing

Truant I LOVE YOU... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

haha hello my yogie. now i have issue ( Truant i love you ?? please explane eek )haha
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fredom
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks for ya opinions fellas it side tracked towards the end but a goood read laughing , what are the trx450s like goodandbad?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hello Fredom. sorry about going a bit off your subject mate. i think you got to get what you feel most comfortable on no matter what brand it is . you will be the one riding it.for example the 700 raptor i got i felt the most comfortable on (due to im 95kg) and i sat on heaps of bikes before i made he choice(i think i peed off heaps of bike shops going backwards and forwards all the time but thats what they get payed for Rolls eyes ).
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truant
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ahhh all good fun!
seriously gytr is right, get what YOU feel good on Rolls eyes



go the LTR !!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ju8st curious fredom what sort of riding are you looking to do with it ?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

what goodnbad won't tell you is Hondas don't handle real well when you land them sideways (cough ROMA), Laughing Laughing but seriously like the other fellas have said ride as many of different bikes you can and you will generally find one that seems to fit better than the others...If you do decide to lower yourself and buy a Honda, goodnbad (ATVNRG) is certainly one person to talk to about your Trx hot up needs.....


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've got both and would have to agree with most of the comments.

Both are great machines. From my exposure to them the YFZ seems bit snappier than the LT-R and feels lighter/smaller, and I still think the YFZ is the best looking machine o/all.

The LTR handles great, has smooth power delivery, and a comfy seat. If you are just starting out in the sport and want to be competitive in the Clubman to Expert classes without forking out big $$ for Axles, A-arms, and Shocks then the LT-R is by far the best value for money. In the Pro ranks both machines will cost the similar money so cost isn't an issue there.

Both stock suspension systems are good with a little work so theres not much to that. Banshees are great machines but these new 450s are a world apart from a Shee, you won't regret trading up. As far a Yellow or Blue goes I believe that you would be happy with either purchase.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

been riding four about 18 mounths now mostly trail, im still not game enough to come off the ground much yet Rolls eyes , im thinkin bout gettin into the flat track to start off with and we do need more people and support of the quads here in mildura
 
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