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kaleb_t 50cc nipper
Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 33
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:20 pm Post subject: 2014 Thumb Pump ???? |
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anyone have any info or head anything about it?
just wondering if its even going to be on next year. |
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Drea62 90cc 2 stroke / 110 4 stroke
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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We hope so but I know mick and tiff a struggling to secure a major
Sponsor and with out that it might not happen
So if you know anyone let them know |
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feralkid The Day Starts With OZATV !
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1567 Location: North Western Victoria  |
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hope they get it going.
Even for just one more year.
Gotta have one more crack. _________________ "If in doubt go flat out"
"Nothing worth having is easy to get" |
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donk Blaster class
Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Posts: 123 Location: rockhampton  |
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: tp 300 |
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im hearing its all over. only 40 or so bikes in 2013 _________________ It's not a lie, It's a controlled release of information! |
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Huskygoat The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1812 Location: Winnellie Darwin  |
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Well that's piss weak
So much for all the support given to Mick and the event in pass years.
The only true ATV event gone.
Prize money WHO CARES
Trophies WHO CARES
Flashy brochures WHO CARES
ITS all about the Riding .... Having a go ... been there having some fun..
Quads sales are Up ... The outlook is bright.
Mick give a go for all the people that have travelled across this country to support this event.
Huskygoat _________________ Truth and Honor and Trust ... never under estimate Them. |
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phil58 4fiddy Racer

Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 271 Location: sw vic  |
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think the "havin fun " part stopped on the 1st corner for a lot of riders?.... _________________ Phil..... |
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Barney Moderator

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 1067 Location: laverton  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:42 am Post subject: |
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It's funny how so many people whinged when there was no premier atv event in this country and when a great ambassador like Mick and Tiff bust there ass and bring the best event that caters for so many different classes , then after a few years everyone complains that it is too hard, ,,,, I must be missing something as it is an endurance race and a good chance to meet with so many other people _________________ 2012 Can am Outlander Xt 1000cc
Can Am Full set of Armour ,Grip and thumb warmer
Fox Podium Shocks and springs front and back
GME Tx 4600 UHF with Helmet Mic
Hema Gps |
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phil58 4fiddy Racer

Joined: 15 Dec 2009 Posts: 271 Location: sw vic  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Barney wrote: | | It's funny how so many people whinged when there was no premier atv event in this country and when a great ambassador like Mick and Tiff bust there ass and bring the best event that caters for so many different classes , then after a few years everyone complains that it is too hard, ,,,, I must be missing something as it is an endurance race and a good chance to meet with so many other people |
How many times have you raced it??.........and if it`s on again next easter? i`m in. _________________ Phil..... |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Huskygoat wrote: | Well that's piss weak
So much for all the support given to Mick and the event in pass years.
The only true ATV event gone.
Prize money WHO CARES
Trophies WHO CARES
Flashy brochures WHO CARES
ITS all about the Riding .... Having a go ... been there having some fun..
Quads sales are Up ... The outlook is bright.
Mick give a go for all the people that have travelled across this country to support this event.
Huskygoat |
well well husky you sir are spot on, nuff said. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Barney wrote: | | It's funny how so many people whinged when there was no premier atv event in this country and when a great ambassador like Mick and Tiff bust there ass and bring the best event that caters for so many different classes , then after a few years everyone complains that it is too hard, ,,,, I must be missing something as it is an endurance race and a good chance to meet with so many other people |
whingers ? fair go, half way through lap 2 on my first ever TP I said NEVER EVER AGAIN. well I only missed one. And I was totally over it last year, well with thumbpump ally section, but guess what I'm IN PHIL we'll do it all over again and again and again. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Drea62 wrote: | We hope so but I know mick and tiff a struggling to secure a major
Sponsor and with out that it might not happen
So if you know anyone let them know |
I was asking this question yesterday and was told the same thing. I heard that tom was going to do it himself....  _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| phil58 wrote: | | Barney wrote: | | It's funny how so many people whinged when there was no premier atv event in this country and when a great ambassador like Mick and Tiff bust there ass and bring the best event that caters for so many different classes , then after a few years everyone complains that it is too hard, ,,,, I must be missing something as it is an endurance race and a good chance to meet with so many other people |
How many times have you raced it??.........and if it`s on again next easter? i`m in. |
once.... _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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Barney Moderator

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 1067 Location: laverton  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have raced once at the first thumb pump and twice at the current venue , and if you add up the klm in the 2012 thumb pump idone over 300 klm by just out riding towing people back and sighting and sweep riding , again this year I done just under 250 klm , again phil and yogie think of the bigger picture and the information will he right in front of you both, again as well my comments were not directed to you but if the cap fits wear it _________________ 2012 Can am Outlander Xt 1000cc
Can Am Full set of Armour ,Grip and thumb warmer
Fox Podium Shocks and springs front and back
GME Tx 4600 UHF with Helmet Mic
Hema Gps |
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Barney Moderator

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 1067 Location: laverton  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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And yes Yogie as far as I am aware you have only missed one event , hats of too you for ,that , but it takes riders and also people who help withthe event to make it all work , if there is too much negative feedback on the event how can anyone plan for future events _________________ 2012 Can am Outlander Xt 1000cc
Can Am Full set of Armour ,Grip and thumb warmer
Fox Podium Shocks and springs front and back
GME Tx 4600 UHF with Helmet Mic
Hema Gps |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Barney wrote: | | And yes Yogie as far as I am aware you have only missed one event , hats of too you for ,that , but it takes riders and also people who help withthe event to make it all work , if there is too much negative feedback on the event how can anyone plan for future events |
and why do you think there were so little entries this year ? because in 5 years there has been no track repair, and the so called repairing done this year, was none existent. but up we came, and for all my bitching and griping, I'll be back next year, and those that don't want to come for what ever reason, make them want to come back, and they will.
And like Huskey said NO PRIZES NO Tshirts and NO sponsers just a good enduro.
I don't know who said it but build it and they will come. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Barney wrote: | | , again phil and yogie think of the bigger picture and the information will he right in front of you both, again as well my comments were not directed to you but if the cap fits wear it |
the bigger picture, no not too concerned about that, they need guys and gals to race and pay for the privilege to do it, and gladly I will do it, but the rest just follows the racers. And of course the guys like you make any event, and don't think we don't know this. But sadly you could ask every rider that did it and never came back a second time, and your answers could be truthful or not very truthful, regardless there are a lot that want to come back, but wont. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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triple"A" Roostin Away
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 941
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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so numbers are declining for this event? that's disappointing. I've never actually been able to make it to a thumbpump. not that i'de ride but i'd like to spectate one day.
seems numbers are declining in all arenas of quadmotorcycle sport. speedway has been passionately debated as to why numbers are down in SA
motocross, not sure about all states but i'm pretty sure the tri state series went by the wayside because numbers weren't there, and here in SA neither club attracts the numbers to a mx event that we had in 2004 to about 2010-2011.
cant blame the GFC anymore, coz other sports and indeed motorcycling disciplines, are on the improve, so what are we doing wrong?
it's time to really stop and have a good look at the sport, and revitalise what was a rapidly developing calendar of club, state and national events.
is it rule changes? is it us as a group? is it the nature of the sport? is it the expense? I have my opinion, and it's a combination of definitely 3 of the above and perhaps even the fourth.
how about we collectively examine what is happening, or not happening maybe, and make suggestion.
however, we must allow freedom of expression to discover what everyone's thoughts are. locking threads because someone doesn't like somebody elses opinion will stifle any brainstorming and really defeats the purpose of having a forum |
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jimmy14 4fiddy Racer
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 222
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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well said kev _________________ yeah mate nah |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| jimmy14 wrote: | | well said kev |
onya kev...  _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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Huskygoat The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1812 Location: Winnellie Darwin  |
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: |
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I think its one person ... Its his way or the Hi Way ... Lots of people chose the Hi way....
Run events that are People friendly but have your competitive part . No flashy stuff ... a reasonable trophy ... keep costs down ... and let clubs earn a dollar to keep them strong.
Numbers will come back . Good tracks friendly family people and time for a BBQ after
My 2 cents
Huskygoat _________________ Truth and Honor and Trust ... never under estimate Them. |
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donk Blaster class
Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Posts: 123 Location: rockhampton  |
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: 2014 tp 300 |
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yep im disappointed too. I have done 2012 tp & 2012 2013 finke. a real shock to find out how fit you need to be to do these races. but no complaining from me even after the 2200klm ea way. I been going to the gym etc since 2012 tp 300. my increased fitness lead me to cut 26 min off my 2012 finke time compared to 2013. I was going to do 2014 tp 300 ironman this time. I think the 2013 tp race nearly got cancelled as well. it went ahead at the last minute(for some) so the event lost its momentum. now throw in the x team situation etc causing more drama. ma should do a survey to try and find out whats going on with the riders cheers _________________ It's not a lie, It's a controlled release of information! |
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triple"A" Roostin Away
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 941
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with a lot of what you said husky, we need to get back to growing a fledgling sport, I think we got too big for our boots way too soon.
gotta walk before you run
rule changes in recent years have made it less flexible to run "CLUB" events.
the emphasis on becoming a pro outfit has pushed out the comraderie and "clubby" mentality.
the width rule and the introduction of a pro 450 class have been limiting for us in more than one discipline. I am over debating the reasons why and refuse to carry it any further than that, so don't bother asking me. I have voiced my opinions in the right circles and been ignored and therefore any more of my time spent on it is wasted. This brings me therefore to my suggestion of "maybe it's us as a group". we don't seem to be able to resolve differences with any compromise.
then there's the nature of the sport, we have been getting some negative safety press lately too.
the fourth was expense, but really it's motorsport so it will never be cheap.
however, mick Andrewartha has been very successful in the past, in securing great event sponsors, both when he was president of QRASA and in his 47 industries ventures, that helped keep event running costs under control, and therefore entry and participation costs affordable. however low numbers of entrants means higher cost for those who do attend.
so in my opinion there are several things that need to be addressed and resolved before any improvement will be seen, and then in turn we may see the return of sponsors, riders, and family environments at competitive events. And maybe then 47 industries will be confident in resurrecting thumbpump without question. |
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triple"A" Roostin Away
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 941
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triple"A" Roostin Away
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 941
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Well this died in the arse so my guess is everyone must be happy with things the way they are and noone really wants to see thumbpump happen |
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yogie Moderator

Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways  |
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| triple"A" wrote: | | Well this died in the arse so my guess is everyone must be happy with things the way they are and noone really wants to see thumbpump happen |
Look mate if your commited put your name down like phil and me and no doubt mick will be work out if its a goer or not. Check out the prev tp threads and pick up the excitment that was flowing and the anticapation of the "weekend" so talk it up in a positive light. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers |
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