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[Roycroft]

apparently the Suzuki LTR is not being made anymore, due to EPA

that would explain there abandoment of the race team in the USA.

anyone know anything else?

they might become collectors items someday.
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[Linc]

Or there will be a new one.......

[BARN-6]

I did hear that as well,it was to easy to by pass the emissions to make them not comply,thats why the bikes are so fast in the states with creamer and wimmer on them

[bullet]

At the worst, Suzuki would have to change the cam timing and the ECU mapping the smallest fraction to comply if they wanted.
A task that would be 10 times easier than redesigning gearbox operation.
So if they have stopped making the LTR450, the EPA would be the excuse, not the real reason.
Suzuki have done it real hard for the last few years and maybe sold a good product too cheap to keep units flowing, and maybe that marketing approach is just not sustainable.
Sport quads are such a small game to be in, so lets hope it's not a sign of things to come for other manufacturers.

Back in 2007, i was thinking that Suzuki might be the first manufacturer to bring out a a proper race LTR250.

Tough times, Poor Buggas.
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[Roycroft]

i believe it also affects a dirt bike the RMX 450 or something like that.
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bullet wrote:

At the worst, Suzuki would have to change the cam timing and the ECU mapping the smallest fraction to comply if they wanted. A task that would be 10 times easier than redesigning gearbox operation. So if they have stopped making the LTR450, the EPA would be the excuse, not the real reason. Suzuki have done it real hard for the last few years and maybe sold a good product too cheap to keep units flowing, and maybe that marketing approach is just not sustainable. Sport quads are such a small game to be in, so lets hope it's not a sign of things to come for other manufacturers. Back in 2007, i was thinking that Suzuki might be the first manufacturer to bring out a a proper race LTR250. Tough times, Poor Buggas.

The First sport quad was Suzuki LTR 250 and was released in Australia 1985,then Honda fourtrax in 1987
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[greenhuman]

1986 for the Honda, Len. Its terrible to get senile.

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greenhuman wrote:

1986 for the Honda, Len. Its terrible to get senile.

Yeh I forgot I kicked your butt on one in 1988 Australian Flat Track Titles Correct me if I am senile but we never saw Honda four trax til 1987 in OZ ?
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[Clarkie]

Roycroft wrote:

i believe it also affects a dirt bike the RMX 450 or something like that.

From the factory the US RMX450 ECU doesnt allow more than 1/2 throttle to be used to meet EPA Regulations, it can be altered at the dealers.
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[greenhuman]

ATV NRG wrote:

greenhuman wrote: 1986 for the Honda, Len. Its terrible to get senile. Yeh I forgot I kicked your butt on one in 1988 Australian Flat Track Titles Correct me if I am senile but we never saw Honda four trax til 1987 in OZ ?

I'll have to go through some trophies to check on that one but I think that was the year you were unbolting parts off your quad to make it lighter because we were getting spanked by a Daddy's boy. Don't you just hate those guys?

Honda didn't release the 250R Fourtrax over this side at all[img][/img]

[gazman]

off topic but where was the 1988 flat trck titles held? 1989 and 1990 was in se qld because i won them.
gazman

[bullet]

That's nothing... Back when i was a boy, we had to walk 15 miles to school every day in 50 degree heat with bare feet. It was up hill all the way and the road was made of broken glass. When we got there the teacher flogged us for 10 hours straight and then we had to walk all the way home. And it was up hill all they way back too.. ... ....
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[NeKeleC]

Don't forget the stale mouldy bread bindy eye sandwhiches you were made to eat for lunch inbetween floggings!!
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[greenhuman]

When I was younger I had to listen to Len. You had to listen because he never shut up.

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bullet wrote:

That's nothing... Back when i was a boy, we had to walk 15 miles to school every day in 50 degree heat with bare feet. It was up hill all the way and the road was made of broken glass. When we got there the teacher flogged us for 10 hours straight and then we had to walk all the way home. And it was up hill all they way back too.. ... ....

Just Jealous because you have only raced for a minute or two
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greenhuman wrote:

When I was younger I had to listen to Len. You had to listen because he never shut up.

I can remember that far back John but I do know you a tool bag
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[Wadey]

back to the subject; we've had the 2011 LTR parts catalogue for a few months ---- be interesting to see if one shows up for thumbpump!!!

[bullet]

Suzuki did exceptionally well last year at ThumbPump, so it will be good to see what happens for 2011.
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[Wadey]

I was actually having a bit of a dig about all the poorly informed comments that there wont be a 2011 LTR450 at all !!

[Roycroft]

Wadey wrote:

I was actually having a bit of a dig about all the poorly informed comments that there wont be a 2011 LTR450 at all !!

i can't recall that has been said.

what i said is that they have stopped production due to EPA. is this not the case?
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[Wadey]

the "dig" wasn't necessarily directed at you either Mick, I've seen and heard the comment numerous times, in fact almost daily. Maybe we'll have an answer by TP.