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haitim01
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 Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: Castrol A747 - 2 Stroke Oil - Any Good? |
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Hey guys,
I bought some Castrol A747 - 2 stroke oil today, was $40 for 1 litre.
How many of you guys use this oil?
what do you think of it?
Is it the best stuff you can get, or only crap stuff?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| its all up to you your useing it and paying 4 it. |
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JP_450
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when i used to race moto x on a 2 stroke i used motul cant remember the number it was but it was top of the line and i never had a problem with my bikes.. most of the boys i know used that. Not sure about castrol oil, guess ya get wot ya pay for but! neither are cheap 
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ashnery
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Valvoline out board 2 stroke oil.
Sounds stupid I no
super cheap auto $25 for 5 litres
have you ever pulled a motor down after running this stuff.....clean
They run $30,000 outboards on this stuff..my02c
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Losty Down Under
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The A747 is for real high reving 2 strokes.
You wnt to be pulling 12000 + RPM, otherwise it will foul the plugs.
Excellent oil though. I ran it for about 3 years in some 26cc engines. They were pulling between 19 - 20 000 RPM. Always perfect inside.
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haitim01
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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ok, so what sort of revs are the banshees usually at?
what oil should i run/mix?
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wheres 4stroker 
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JP_450
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| Dingo555 wrote: | | wheres 4stroker |
Haha yeah he'd def know! would have to be one of the biggest one eyed banshee fans on here! only joking mate 
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: |
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haha heres that one eye for ya!
nah i run silkolene in mine, but i reckon darren and ash are on to something with the outboard oil.
banshee engines are an old design, no powervalves to gum up, no special rings/bearings etc. iron bore... run whatever 2 stroke oil you want. if its fouling plugs, ride harder or lean off the oil:fuel ratio!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Castrol A747 - 2 Stroke Oil - Any Good? |
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| haitim01 wrote: | Hey guys,
I bought some Castrol A747 - 2 stroke oil today, was $40 for 1 litre.
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holy shite thats expensive! at 25:1, 20 litres of fuel would cost you about $60!!
i wouldnt bother running that stuff...
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| 4stroker wrote: | haha heres that one eye for ya!
nah i run silkolene in mine, but i reckon darren and ash are on to something with the outboard oil.
banshee engines are an old design, no powervalves to gum up, no special rings/bearings etc. iron bore... run whatever 2 stroke oil you want. if its fouling plugs, ride harder or lean off the oil:fuel ratio! |
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JP_450
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"4stroker" Haha legend
yeah from the sounds of it the outboard oil would be the go hey, if it works why not run it! def guna save ya coin..
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haitim01
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how much is the Silkolene stuff you run stroker?
the guy who built the engine told me to run 50:1 fuel ratio, so i guess i better stick with that... they said IT MUST BE 50:1!!!! |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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ashnery"]Valvoline out board 2 stroke oil.
Sounds stupid I no
super cheap auto $25 for 5 litres
have you ever pulled a motor down after running this stuff.....clean
They run $30,000 outboards on this stuff..my02c
im not stupid ,or em i, in using this.
were did you get that idea from sounds good |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Benefits of Valvoline HP 2 Stroke Outboard Motor Oil
Uses Advanced Synthetic Fortified Technology
Protects against wear, rust and corrosion
Reduces smoking
Readily mixes with leaded and unleaded petrol
Suitable for use in both air and water cooled high horsepower outboard engines
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| haitim01 wrote: | how much is the Silkolene stuff you run stroker?
the guy who built the engine told me to run 50:1 fuel ratio, so i guess i better stick with that... they said IT MUST BE 50:1!!!! |
its about $20 a litre, so half yours. but your 50:1 and im 25:1, so your using half anyway. equilibrium
i think 50:1 in a banshee is crazy, but thats another story altogether....
see these threads for more info:
http://www.ozatv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5274
http://www.ozatv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5180
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haitim01
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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what if i ran it 40:1 then?
would it make much of a difference? |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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read them threads mate
i reckon you should find a ratio that uses as much oil as possible without fouling plugs or dripping out your exhaust
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haitim01
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ok, well ill give it a run at 40:1 and see what the result is, and work on it from there. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| dont go any higher then 40 |
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| I use motorex at 24:1 never had a fouled plug in 2 years, costs me about $100 for 4 litres. |
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Losty Down Under
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| Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Something a lot of people don't realize with a 2 stroke is that oil = horsepower.
Run as high a mix as you can with out fowling your plug. The motor will run cooler, your lubrication will be higher = less friction = more HP & you will have better compression = more torque. Not to mention that your engine will thank you for it.
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| Losty Down Under wrote: | Something a lot of people don't realize with a 2 stroke is that oil = horsepower.
Run as high a mix as you can with out fowling your plug. The motor will run cooler, your lubrication will be higher = less friction = more HP & you will have better compression = more torque. Not to mention that your engine will thank you for it. |
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| I'm not sure I'd run outboard at 40:1. Some oils are designed to run at those ratios and some are not. I used to run outboard in the days that I ran 20:1 but when I run 40:1 (on sand) or 50:1 (on dirt) I use oils designed for those ratios (normally Motul 800). Outborard oils may have gotten better over the past few years so I may be talking s@#t but I'd check up first if I were you. |
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