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[yogie]

Linc wrote:

Sounds like the easiest way around this is to ask for an ATV to be defined as a bike in the same way a trike is. This way we could get around all of the loop holes re: ADR's etc.....

I know back in around 2000-2003 Vicroads classed them as quadracycles, not sure on the spelling though.
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[gb]

yogie wrote:

Linc wrote: Sounds like the easiest way around this is to ask for an ATV to be defined as a bike in the same way a trike is. This way we could get around all of the loop holes re: ADR's etc..... I know back in around 2000-2003 Vicroads classed them as quadracycles, not sure on the spelling though.

Might be a stupid question but can you get insurance for a quad while riding it.....third party or anything.
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[yogie]

gb wrote:

yogie wrote: Linc wrote: Sounds like the easiest way around this is to ask for an ATV to be defined as a bike in the same way a trike is. This way we could get around all of the loop holes re: ADR's etc..... I know back in around 2000-2003 Vicroads classed them as quadracycles, not sure on the spelling though. Might be a stupid question but can you get insurance for a quad while riding it.....third party or anything.

yes you can but I'll get back to you about whats its called and its only on private property.
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honda thumb
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[PeteW]

wasn't it a TAC form yogie?
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[priesty]

Yeah, there used to be a sample posted up on the old QRCV site, whatever happened to that pete? While I'm at it I can't get the gallery link for the sandfest pics to work, can you check it out.

cheers.....
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[feralkid]

[/quote]

we vote and we all want to ride Kawasaki's NOW... [/quote]

Sorry yogie, only a select few want to ride tractors and pretend they are real quads.
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[priesty]

feralkid wrote:

we vote and we all want to ride Kawasaki's NOW... [/quote]

Sorry yogie, only a select few want to ride tractors and pretend they are real quads. [/quote]

Thanks Feral, I was tossing up whether to go to TP300 this year, but now I've decided I have to. I wanna see how fast you can run when Yogie arrives.

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08 700xx

[yogie]

PeteW wrote:

wasn't it a TAC form yogie?

yeah one of these, it gave the insured FULL tac cover, but if your quad had rego, there is nothing stopping a person getting fire theft, full third party cover, the lot, Dennis has his fully insured, and when he had his big offie at Yarram that time, his insurance company paid for the lot, all was close to 4500 to fix the grizzly. And TAC paid for the helicopter ride, they checked out his claim fully, not a drama.



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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[yogie]

feralkid wrote:

we vote and we all want to ride Kawasaki's NOW... [/quote]

Sorry yogie, only a select few want to ride tractors and pretend they are real quads. [/quote]



I will see you there... and i might even let you ride the big beast or maybe you wouldnt want to sit on a tractor...
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With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[feralkid]

Far out you got me there didn't ya. Yep i'll see you there. Won't be riding i don't think but will still come and try and stay for both days. We'll see what happens.
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[feralkid]

priesty wrote:

feralkid wrote: we vote and we all want to ride Kawasaki's NOW...

Sorry yogie, only a select few want to ride tractors and pretend they are real quads. [/quote]

Thanks Feral, I was tossing up whether to go to TP300 this year, but now I've decided I have to. I wanna see how fast you can run when Yogie arrives.
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Yeah come to TP300. You know you have to.
Lol, if he unhooks the plough off the tractor he might get close. Poor Yogie. He can't help it tho.
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[gb]

yogie wrote:

gb wrote: yogie wrote: Linc wrote: Sounds like the easiest way around this is to ask for an ATV to be defined as a bike in the same way a trike is. This way we could get around all of the loop holes re: ADR's etc..... I know back in around 2000-2003 Vicroads classed them as quadracycles, not sure on the spelling though. Might be a stupid question but can you get insurance for a quad while riding it.....third party or anything. yes you can but I'll get back to you about whats its called and its only on private property.

Me thinks it a bit stupid you can get that but not rec reg.
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[gb]

priesty wrote:

feralkid wrote: we vote and we all want to ride Kawasaki's NOW...

Sorry yogie, only a select few want to ride tractors and pretend they are real quads. [/quote]

Thanks Feral, I was tossing up whether to go to TP300 this year, but now I've decided I have to. I wanna see how fast you can run when Yogie arrives.
[/quote]aaahhhh but will you ride a bit more thats the question.Locking my door now cause he lives within walking distance
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[yogie]

gb wrote:

aaahhhh but will you ride a bit more thats the question.Locking my door now cause he lives within walking distance

my list just keeps getting bigger, you fixed Momma's bike yet.
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[feralkid]

yogie wrote:

gb wrote: aaahhhh but will you ride a bit more thats the question.Locking my door now cause he lives within walking distance my list just keeps getting bigger, you fixed Momma's bike yet.

So you have a list now. I don't think I wanna stay out at TP300 now caus you might run me over while I sleep or something.
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[buzzbro]

you fixed Momma's bike yet. [/quote]
If he doesn't fix it soon moma's gunna sit on him
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[yogie]

buzzbro wrote:

If he doesn't fix it soon moma's gunna sit on him

How ya been glen ?? the family have a good Xmas ??? we gunna have to meet up soon for camp or somthing like that, maybe the place where the hut is ????
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[Rosco-YFZ450]

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if these forms are still available through TAC.

Rosco
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[yogie]

Rosco-YFZ450 wrote:

Hi guys, Does anyone know if these forms are still available through TAC. Rosco

print that one off of mine and go to a Vicroads and cant see why not. I'll send you a PM about how it works. (in a day or so)
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[priesty]

buzzbro wrote:

you fixed Momma's bike yet.

If he doesn't fix it soon moma's gunna sit on him [/quote]

Been a while since thats happened. LOL.
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08 700xx

[Rosco-YFZ450]

Hi guys,

Just got back from our holidays up at our van in Mansfield. Didnt get to do much riding due to the heat and dust (4 days in a row over 40 deg.) Anyway, I found out some info in regards to TAC cover, dont know if this may help us BUT. did you know that if you were to have an accident out on the trails and you needed medical attention, all you have to do is call 000 and the cops will turn up and book you. BUT you are then fully covered by TAC. So why cant they cover us with rec rego ??? It just dosnt make sense to me. I found out from a guy who flipped his mates quad not far from the van park where we are, broke his leg in two places, Mrs Rosco rang the Ambo they rang the cops. They told the guy IF they charge him with driving/riding an unregistered vehicle he is covered for ALL medical fees. This included Ambo ride to Mansfield hospital then air ambo to Maroonda Base hospital, Three operations, two weeks in hospital and 12 months of rehab. Its just got me stumped.
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[yogie]

Okay, while I know that rec reg is still not upon us, if we are not carefull we'll end like NSW and get one spot and thats gunna be it.

I am a member of the VTRN (victorian trail riders network) this a organisation that is trying get numbers so they can go to the DSE and the State and Fedral Govt to try and stop track/trail closures across Vic. Now its simple and cheap to join, fill out and online form and pay NOTHING, thats right nothing and your done, Bruce will send you out a newletter once a month, the closures planned for the Otways are comming, Gippsland has already been listed (see below) there's no need to read them if you dont want to but just see how big the list is...

Road and track closures in State forest in Gippsland

pg 219

ERICA AREA
Boola Boola State forest

C13 and C13W Tracks R Rehabilitated
F23 Track R Rehabilitated
F22 Track R Rehabilitated
Part F21W Track R Rehabilitated
Last 0.5 km of F16 Track R Rehabilitated
R12 and R12–1 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
R16 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Link between W4 and W11 Tracks S Protect track surface
Last 0.4 km of W11–4 Track R Rehabilitated
W6 Track R Rehabilitated
W7 Track R Rehabilitated
W8 and W10 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
2 unnamed tracks opposite Boola Camp R Rehabilitated
W13 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
W16 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
W11–2–1 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Unnamed track off W14 Track R Rehabilitated
W11–1 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
W15 Track R Rehabilitated
R14 and R13 Tracks R Rehabilitated
W17 and W24 Tracks P Protection of water quality
W23 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track,
Protection of water quality
Last 2 km of W28 Track R Rehabilitated
W29 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track,
Protection of water quality
2 unnamed tracks north off W31 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track,
Protection of water quality
Last 200 m of W25 and R6 Tracks R Rehabilitated
R4 and R5 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
R2 and R3 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
R1 and W33 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track,
Protection of water quality
C3A Track R Rehabilitated
Unnamed track off C7 Track R Rehabilitated
Unnamed track opposite C8 Track R Rehabilitated
C10 Track R Rehabilitated
Continued next page
220
Forest management plan for Gippsland
Road and track closures in State forest in Gippsland continued


Road or Track Name Category Reason for closure
Unnamed track off F6 Track R Rehabilitated
Unnamed track on the opposite side of P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Eaglehawk Creek to Humes Road
Unnamed tracks off Eaglehawk Road P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(adjacent to Humes Road)
2 unnamed tracks off Eaglehawk Road P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
opposite E1 to E4 Tracks
F17 Track P Protection of Reference Area
F18 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track,
Protection of Reference Area
E7 Track from Eaglehawk Creek to track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
junction, approx 1 km from Eaglehawk Road
E4 and E5 Tracks R Rehabilitated
E1 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
E2 and E3 Tracks R Rehabilitated
F11 Track and first unnamed track R Rehabilitated
north off F10 Track
C5 Track (between C5–1 and C4 Tracks) P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
C8 Track R Rehabilitated
Unnamed track east off C11 Scarf Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(1.4 km from Cowwarr Road)
C15W Track R Rehabilitated
C14 Track R Rehabilitated
C28 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
C29 Track R Rehabilitated
C30 Track R Rehabilitated
C31 Track R Rehabilitated
C32 Track R Rehabilitated
C35 and C36 Tracks R Rehabilitated
Link between C39 and Cowwarr Road P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Deep Creek No 3 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Loop track at the end of Holmedale Track R Rehabilitated
Unnamed track west of Deep Creek R Rehabilitated
No 2 Track
The middle two of the 4 Gladstone P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Mine access tracks
3 unnamed tracks off Stoney No 1 track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(north of Stoney Creek) after firewood
and apiary finished
6 unnamed tracks off Stoney No 1 track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(south of Stoney Creek) after firewood
harvested
Track incorrectly marked as Stoney No 1 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Unnamed link track between Downings P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
Road and T1 Track
Continued next page
Appendix X
221


Road and track closures in State forest in Gippsland continued
Road or Track Name Category Reason for closure
Unnamed track south off T1 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(0.5 km south of Stoney Creek Track)
Unnamed track off McEvoys Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(opposite E–W Divide Track)
Unnamed track off Stoney Creek Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
(opposite Stoney No 5 Track)
Unnamed track off T7 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
T5 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
C23–2 Track P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
C34–1, C34–3 and C34–4–1 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track
C39–1, C39–3 and C39–4 Tracks P Obsolete, redundant, duplicated or unnecessary track


I can vouch for bruce, he's an good honest bloke, even if he dosent ride a quad, he rides trialsbike... cant even afford a seat for it. So have a think about it and see if it suits you.

the site is. http://www.vtrn.mototrials.com.au/support.htm

click the link and fill it out, just mention some where that you found this out on OZATV.com if you could.

and if your realy bored check out theis thread on DBW... not good.
http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=53765
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[Lugz]

Hey Yogie,

I just looked at the pics on the DBW thread!!!

OMG!!!!! WTF!!!!!!

I live in East Gippsland and the last thing I want to see is signs like that IF i ever decide to "Break the Law" and go for a trail ride or go 4WD with some mates!!

I dont see what the huff is about!! Would I be fined for riding an "unregistered vehicle" or would there be a more serious fine involved if i was to venture out on to "public land" and get cought?

I would love to head out for a trail ride, but the only place I can Legally do it is 3.5 hour away, up at a place called Suggan Buggan near the NSW border. Like I have stated before, Any and every one is welcome to camp/ride at our place!! only 42 acres (great for some flat out fun and the kiddies) but pleanty of State forrest and the end of the road!! All you have to do is cross the Princes hwy.

Cheer

Lugz
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[priesty]

Lugz wrote:

Hey Yogie, I just looked at the pics on the DBW thread!!! OMG!!!!! WTF!!!!!! Lugz

OMG!!!!! wtf!!!!!!! x2

That's disturbing info. Did my bit & registered in the survey thingey.
I might even ring the DSE number & get details for public comment, the more that do the better. We all need to send a message - 2 whls or 4, doesn't matter.
What's the use of fighting for rec reg if it becomes worthless when they close all the riding areas.

cheers.......
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08 700xx

[priesty]

VTRN
290 Centre Road
Wensleydale
Vic 3241

MEDIA RELEASE


Victorian Trail Riders Fight to Keep the Bush Open

Trail Riders from across Victoria are banding together to fight proposed government bush road and track closures in favourite riding areas to all forest users.

New plans released by the Department of Sustainability and Environment to permanently close popular riding areas in the Otway Forest Parks and Enfield State Forest have angered riders.

Victorian Trail Riders Network Coordinator, Bruce Dupe said riders were disappointed that the government was not willing to work toward partnerships and cooperative arrangements with responsible riders, rider organisations and other forest user groups

“Just when we were seeing results DSE changed the plans we had been jointly working on and announce they intend to close down whole areas!�

“We had worked really hard to come up with sustainable solutions to keep the bush open but after everything we have done we wonder why we bothered.� he said.

“It’s not just motorcycle riders this will effect, it’s four wheel drives, horse riders and even bicycle riders!�

The Victorian government has commenced a six week consultation process but trail riders have little faith in the process after a spate of track closures in the area in recent years and a fear of more to come.

“DSE and Parks Victoria have strung up dangerous steel cable and concrete barriers along roads and tracks to keep people out of the bush and now they are going to do more and more.� says Bruce Dupe.

“The riding loops the bureaucrats have suggested are almost all gravel roads with considerable use by local residents and tourists.�

“It gets scary when you come around a corner with heavy steel cables on each side and see a Landcruiser heading for you on your side of the road! That’s not the riding experience I’m looking for, it’s just plain dangerous!�

The Victorian Trail Riders Network is calling on all riders across Victoria and another concerned forest users to join the network and help stop the current proposed track closures from going ahead. VTRN is working with other user groups to challenge the track closures on legal grounds and is lobbying government ministers and MP’s in an effort to halt the process before it is too late.

For further information please contact, Bruce Dupe, Victorian Trail Riders Network on (03) 5288 7227 or visit the webpage www.vtrn.mototrials.com.au

The QRCV should get involved in this issue as well.
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