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[The Jackal]

The above pics are of an email I received from the QDoC today. I urge all Qld quad riders to read the to reply to my email, it makes for interesting reading. 3 things spring to mind.
1. They never answered my original question i.e. "will quads be allowed at the facility".
2. I asked what was the point of conditional rego when every government dept seems to have a different interpretation of what is allowed and the fact the state government has just put it up! ** read the 3rd to last paragraph**
3. The 1st paragraph on page 2 gives all an open door to have our say and detail our likes and needs. Even if you are not interested or not planning to use the facility I urge ALL of you to take up the offer and write to Phil Reeves before May 14th and have your say. I would like to see all organisations and clubs to write too and detail the number of your members and list our/your opinions.

Thanks,

The Jackal
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[Dazz]

Ok so where do we send it ?
you have an email address?

[Dazz]

i think this is his email

phil.reeves@queenslandlabor.org


here is the jist of what i wrote to them

Hi, i just want to voice my concerns about the new Wyaralong dam site at Beaudesert first i want to make sure that planning has allowed for ATV/Quad bikes to enjoy the park just as much as the trail bikes that will be there. My wife and 3 children all ride quad bikes and we are sick of having to ride in illegal places just to have a day out with the kids on there quads. We are aware that Planning have allocated 30+ km of trails for trail bikes and want to make sure that we “Quad bike riders “ will be catered for as well as trail bikes. On a more personal note i hope the site won’t become just another motocross racing park as this takes the trails back out of the hands of family’s and with racing events it can be for days at a time. We are also hope that your trail planners are planning for pee wee riders and not just pee wee racers as our experience with motorbike parks in Queensland in the past has been that alot of the parks have been designed by motocross racers and they design them with very difficult trails and this does not suit “family days trail riding� we hope this is not the case

In closing my friends family’s and my own hope you intend to cater for family trail riding and not just a bunch of disgruntled motocross riders who had their parks closed

[Earthmover]

30 kms of trails how big is this place If it where it is when you search
( Wyaralong ) on Google maps there's a lot of land there & Who controls the land now
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[Dino]

Earthmover wrote:

30 kms of trails how big is this place If it where it is when you search ( Wyaralong ) on Google maps there's a lot of land there & Who controls the land now

Yes. It is about 6 or 700 hectares.
A lot of the land was resumed/purchased for a propsed dam. Err, that didn't work out. So now some use of it MAY be made for residents of the South East and travellers as a govt owned and privately run "ride park."
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The proposal has had some media releases but the final details are yet to be finalised. It's very early days yet. but the final decisions are to be made very soon.
I'll back the Jackal on this. If us quad riders don't let this MP, Phil Reeves know what we want, we're unlikely to get a look in.
And don't believe for one minute that the numerous places we're we've been riding and driving for so long, are still going to be available......
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[Dazz]

Well said Dino ....like you said every one needs to get there ass in gear and make this a win for quads it's not a time to sit on the fence and let someone else do it this place is going to be the proving ground for other states too so guys get your lazy fingas into your outlook express and make some noise before it's too late

Could we have a little quad riders association input here please??

[gothev8]

I have sent them a letter asking for them to preserve the rights of ATV and SXS owners to use the park.

Has anyone from QQRA sent them a letter, I think a letter from the Club will hold much more sway than inderviduals. Who is QQRA's El Presidente again??? (Sorry, I cant remember )

Oh, and this is the deal for submisions.

How to make a submission
Submissions on the draft Provisions are both welcome and encouraged.

To be accepted, a submission must:


include the name and residential or business address of each person who has made the submission;
be in writing and signed by each person who made the submission;
be addressed to the Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Sport;
be received by the Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Sport on or before 14 May 2010; and
state the grounds of the submission including the facts and circumstances relied on to support those grounds.
All submissions should be addressed to:

The Honourable Phil Reeves MP
Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Sport
GPO Box 806, Brisbane Qld 4001

or email to:
trailbikes@communities.qld.gov.au

Closing date for submissions
Feedback should be submitted in writing by 5pm on Friday 14 May 2010.
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[Dino]

Thanks for that info gothev8.

Regardless of whether your a buggy, motorbiker, quad trail rider or MXer, every reply to the MP counts. The more the better.
People sitting on the sidelines and leaving it to the few vocal ones that care or hoping that some organisation will do it for them, we need your help. Sling Phil a letter or email the dept of Sport and Recreation.
That Dept and Phil are one of the very few Govt. groups that are on our side.
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[gothev8]

Just dont mention the INDY to Phil
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[gazman]

Is it possible to put up a "standard" letter on here that all the lazy bones can just put their name on and send it off to the guvment?The easier it is ,the more letters can be sent to add to our voice. I'm no geek, too hard for me.
gazman

[surfin]

if someone does up a letter, I am happy to make it a link so people just click on it and it downloads and opens in Word for them to fill out
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[gothev8]

Received this email in response to my submission:

Dear Mr Robertson

Thank you for your submission regarding the draft State Planning Regulatory Provisions: Motor Sport Activity Facility (trail bike) on state-owned land at Wyaralong.

As you are aware, the Queensland Government is seeking community and stakeholder views on the draft provisions to inform the development of a ‘best practice’ trail bike and motocross facility at Wyaralong. Submissions close on 14 May 2010 and following this all the submissions will be reviewed and analysed. Your submission is appreciated and your views will be considered before the State Planning Regulatory Provisions are finalised.

You will be advised of the outcomes of consultation on the draft provisions, once all submissions have been considered.

Regards

Planning and Evaluation Unit
Sport & Recreation Services
Department of Communities
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[The Jackal]

Hi all,
thanks to those of you who have taken the time to respond and send in correspondence. I'm onto my second letter. Please take the time to write now because after May 14th I will guarantee "they" will give us what they want and NOT what we need. Thanks to those who have included extra information about the process. We all appreciate it....

The Jackal
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[Dazz]

surfin wrote:

if someone does up a letter, I am happy to make it a link so people just click on it and it downloads and opens in Word for them to fill out

Ok change as you see fit ...


Dear Sir,

As part of the local riders & family’s and visitors intending to use the new park at Wyaralong dam.

i would like to ask if your planning department will plan to cater to family quad bike outings , Pee wee quad riders and professional quad bike racing and not just motor cross and trail bikes .

One of our main issues with park is “has proper provision has will be made for Pee wee quad riders and Pee Wee Trail bike riders to enjoy enduro trails� We find most pee wee motocross to dangerous for our children but we find enduro trails give them a chance to explore the bush with their family on their own bike in a more secure and family controlled environment.

Also i hope that the new camp sites will have power and will have adequate tethering to secure our valuable machinery at night, and of course a Kiosk selling ice and camping essentials.

A yearly usage fee would be totally acceptable with a daily fee for visiting travellers to cover some of the park operating costs.

Perhaps you could look at the park like a high impact ski resort such as perisher valley where they have volunteer patrols to curb unruly idiots from wrecking the days skiing in the beginners areas and attend to minor accidents around the resort in the case of the bike park they could monitor the motocross tracks and pee wee trails too.

In closing we hope that you and your planning dept will make adequate facilities for family’s to enjoy legal Quad bike riding in SE Queensland

Sincerely

NAME
ADDRESS
PHONE NUMBER

[Dazz]

still a bit confused why we are not seeing input here from the QQRA and others Riders / Racers here in Qld ?

i can understand they dont like to talk on forums but ive seen 100 threads that scotty and the crew have commented on ... why not this one when its so important to us i must be missing somthing ?

by the way another sad death last night at reedy creek ... im sure that will speed the end of that mx park

[The Jackal]

Nice letter Daz.... good onyer....
As for your question about the QQRA. You'll have to PM the committee and ask them.
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[scottydig]

HI,

Jed and I did a ADBA one day event at wyralong about 2 years ago. It was a great days riding with the main trail being about 25km and the junior/novice track was about 5km.
The terrain ranged from flats, undulating to hilly and a sandy creek crossing.There were some large rock outcrops which made for some excellent scenery and challenging trails.
There were about 20 quads on the saturday and the 2 wheelers rode on sunday.
QQRA is having a practise day at coolum on saturday so I will bring the matter of wyralong bike park up.

thanks scotty.
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[Dazz]

thanks scotty i think you have untill the 14th to get a letter into them

[gothev8]

Dazz,

Great letter mate, I like the idea about volunteer patrols, that's what BDV needed, get rid of the idiots, police correct use of safety gear etc. Don’t forget about us SXS drivers though .
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[NeKeleC]

I have sent a letter through to mr Reeves regarding Wyaralong dam issues and i am a member of the QQRA. just because people aien't posting in doesn't meen they are doing nothing I too recieved a similer email to that above from Mr Reeves assistant regarding the issue, so our voices are being heard whether or not they will be actioned on is another thing.

I will say though that the QQRA is a not for profit club that does it's best to promote and support the sport of quad bikes in Qld and it seems a shame that some people get on this forum and claim the club is doing nothing about these issues yet they don't even support the club by becoming a member!!!
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[Dazz]

NeKeleC i dont see the point in arguing here about who does what ...

what is important is that every one pitches in and just maybe we will have a great place to ride

thanks for sending in a letter / email to mr reeves NeKeleC

[gothev8]

NeKeleC wrote:

I have sent a letter through to mr Reeves regarding Wyaralong dam issues and i am a member of the QQRA. just because people aien't posting in doesn't meen they are doing nothing I too recieved a similer email to that above from Mr Reeves assistant regarding the issue, so our voices are being heard whether or not they will be actioned on is another thing. I will say though that the QQRA is a not for profit club that does it's best to promote and support the sport of quad bikes in Qld and it seems a shame that some people get on this forum and claim the club is doing nothing about these issues yet they don't even support the club by becoming a member!!!

I am right behind the QQRA and a current member, as is my family. I am definitely not implying that the QQRA does nothing; I was only suggesting the Club send in a letter, they may have already. I have enjoyed attending QQRA weekends at Manar and plan to do so again. I hope you haven’t misunderstood my posts above.
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[NeKeleC]

Hello Gothev8 no it was not you that i was refering to. Hopefully we will catch up in the near future my wife and i are going to coolum tomorrow for a blast hope to see you there we are only new to the quad scene and look forward to meeting new people.
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[gothev8]

NeKeleC wrote:

Hello Gothev8 no it was not you that i was refering to. Hopefully we will catch up in the near future my wife and i are going to coolum tomorrow for a blast hope to see you there we are only new to the quad scene and look forward to meeting new people.

No problems!

Wont be heading to Coolum, I suck at MX, trail riding for me!!
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[Dazz]

i think a big hurdle here is a lot of people just sit on the side line thinking some one else will do it for them ... problem is ... if the numbers are not there then the planners will have a very dim view on planning for quad riders and will proberbly just disragard us .... on the other hand the trail bike clubs are thumping phil reeves with email and no doubt will get a nice big chunk of the action ....

has any one been able to verify if we even have the correct email address for phill reeves ....