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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: Dual Battery Set Up for Trailer Reply with quote Back to top

I'm wanting to set up a dual battery in my trailer to run my car fridge and some 12v lights etc while I'm camping without draining the car battery. I'd like it to charge off the cars alternator while traveling. I've had a quick look at commercial setups but wondering if anyone has come up with a DIY setup.

I'm thinking a kit like this might do the job, with an Anderson plug & cable from the back of the car to the 2nd battery in the trailer...http://cgi.ebay.com.au/DUAL-BATTERY-SYSTEM-120A-FULL-KIT-ELECTRONIC-ISOLATOR_W0QQitemZ310170071492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item483793b1c4&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Go to your local Repco, Bursons, Autobarn etc. and get a Projecta DBC150TK dual battery isolator kit for caravans, you get them with the anderson plug kits in them so as you can charge a battery in your trailer/ caravan. I use these in my business and have one on my personal vehicle, there a great kit and easy to fit up. if you cant get one send me a PM and Ill get one out to you, Clarkie

http://www.projecta.com.au/catalogue/cid/23/asset_id/54
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

pretty easy to make your own with just a 25 amp relay and some correctly placed wires but if your lazy like me go to homeof12volt.com.au and look at their charging kits and their 105 amp hour redback batteries for an easy setup. I might even have a spare relay setup in my shed I'll have look and bring it on the weekend unless you need it for then give me call
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A 25a relay isnt big enough for the job as most alternators on modern vehicles will charge at least 80A to the 2nd battery,they also create a back EMF when open circuiting which in turn creates voltage spikes which in turn kills lots of stuff in vehicles with ECMs and other sensitive electrical components, not saying it doesnt work but not the best option for todays vehicles.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ashdowns....Redarc Smart Solenoid part # SB112.....
12v 100amp fully automatic. When you alt. starts charging it switches on when you stop it turns off.....practically Idiotproof to fit and use laughing laughing
Cost me about $70.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Clarkie wrote:
A 25a relay isnt big enough for the job as most alternators on modern vehicles will charge at least 80A to the 2nd battery,they also create a back EMF when open circuiting which in turn creates voltage spikes which in turn kills lots of stuff in vehicles with ECMs and other sensitive electrical components, not saying it doesnt work but not the best option for todays vehicles.


what if you only use the relay to open the circuit between two parrallel connected batteries and not straight off the alternator?

In saying that this is what i run in my car
http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=24
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Can any of you electrical gurus tell me if an alternator mounted on a trailer's a-frame would spin fast enough by virtue of it's impellor at say 80-100km p/hour to charge a battery ? Has anyone ever tried this ? I assume it would require an inbuilt regulator to work correctly.
Sorry if it's a stupid question, as I'm electrically illiterate, but it just seems to me that it would work.
Any thoughts ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

cheers for the input. do you just use a standard lead-acid battery for the auxillary or should I look to get a deep-cycle or gas-sealed type? I'm intending to mount it up in a battery box with a charge indicator, isolator, 12v outlet etc from supercheap or the like.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

priesty wrote:
Can any of you electrical gurus tell me if an alternator mounted on a trailer's a-frame would spin fast enough by virtue of it's impellor at say 80-100km p/hour to charge a battery ? Has anyone ever tried this ? I assume it would require an inbuilt regulator to work correctly.
Sorry if it's a stupid question, as I'm electrically illiterate, but it just seems to me that it would work.
Any thoughts ?


The load required by the alternator to charge would probably be greater than the windspeed avalible, unless you geared it down like a wind generator, I have fitted them to the tailshafts of mini sprint cars before.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

priesty wrote:
Can any of you electrical gurus tell me if an alternator mounted on a trailer's a-frame would spin fast enough by virtue of it's impellor at say 80-100km p/hour to charge a battery ? Has anyone ever tried this ? I assume it would require an inbuilt regulator to work correctly.
Sorry if it's a stupid question, as I'm electrically illiterate, but it just seems to me that it would work.
Any thoughts ?


if you run two 75 amp batteries, this will give you power enough for a full weeked running a fridge (engal for eg) lighting, but get a cteh charger, Grizzly put me on to those, these are fantastic.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

noodles wrote:
Clarkie wrote:
A 25a relay isnt big enough for the job as most alternators on modern vehicles will charge at least 80A to the 2nd battery,they also create a back EMF when open circuiting which in turn creates voltage spikes which in turn kills lots of stuff in vehicles with ECMs and other sensitive electrical components, not saying it doesnt work but not the best option for todays vehicles.


what if you only use the relay to open the circuit between two parrallel connected batteries and not straight off the alternator?

In saying that this is what i run in my car
http://www.4wdsystems.com.au/index.php?id=24


Its the relay that creates its own voltage spike, as the electro manetic force that holds the relay shut colapses as you depower the relay, it creates its own voltage in the relay windings giving of an unregulated voltage spike, blowing up voltage sensitive stuff. Clear as mud??
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

go to a battery world get your vsr voltage sene relay an it will do all the work for you plus you want a smart charger to keep it toped up aswell!!!
 
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