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[Dazz]

i have a set of 5" spacers that i have not used yet and after reading posts on the net saying these stud type spacers will break your studs / bearings and or Shear off or bend the bolts and and cause freddy kruger to give you a vist i have been hesitant to use them on my quad ...i never actualy saw a post from some one that actualy broke there quad just reapeated gosip saying a simular story...

i wrote to the manufacture about my concerns and they replied with

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We have sold several thousands of sets over the past 3 years. We only have heard of 2 cases where the original studs broke and that was because the installer put them on REALLY tight (75 lbs of torque). Just install them with normal tightness (about 50-55lbs) and you can jump, mud bogg, etc.. with no worries

i also spoke to my mechanic who told me that he couldnt see why they would screw up my hubs and studs

so now im realy in two minds about using them .......

im not a racer and i only get little air... i ride trails

maybe i should just sell this set and get a sligtly smaller set to be sure ?

[Overlord]

Mate so what were talking hear is 2.5 inches a side there should be no problem. I run 2 inch on my Banshee without a problem and my girl runs 2 inch on her KFX 700. I am a big fan of wheel spacers on the rear but be carefull putting them on the front as with some quads it can stuff up the geomentry of the front end. By the way what are they going on as some models have stronger axels than others. Mate this is my personal opinion some people think spacers are ok on the front.


Regards Bad Banshee

[Dazz]

Fronts of my 04 Raptor 350

[Overlord]

Mate dont put them on the front especialy that wide. If anything put them on the rear dont have your front wider than the back thats how you usually roll it. As an example my girls 700 comes standard with the front wider than the back and that can make them very tippy. I put 2 inch spacers on the rear and she now throws it around like a 450.


Regards Bad Banshee

[Davo]

don't use spacers, if anything just flip the rims
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[Overlord]

Not a bad idea Davo I forgot about that, just make sure your not doing any huge jumps because stock Yamaha rims are like plastic.


Regards Bad Banshee

[t&l performance]

them stud type spacers are junk been thru 1 set on a kfx700 and 2 sets on a ltz400 try and buy the full spacers that bolt onto your hub than the rim bolts to that

[Dazz]

ok so how about ths type for approx $320 AUD





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[Davo]

defiantly not for that much + who knows what that does to the geometry, may aswell get some cheap a-arms (i dunno how much raptor 350 stuff is)
Try flipping the rims to see if you like it.
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[Dazz]

the valve stem hits the brake when flipping them

when they say +2" for a arms does that mean total increase in width will be 4" ?

wouldnt the geometry change any way with A-Arms ?

[Overlord]

Dazz face your valve stem inside out and make sure you put some valve stems caps on. It will give you clearance to mount the wheel and drill new holes for your valve stem on the outside. Done this before works ok. As for what your showing the a-arm extenders they done a right up in Oz ATV a while back they said they were ok but look suss to me. Buying some a-arms is the proper way to go talk to JMC Racing he may have some in stock and yes that means 2 inch a side and the geomentry should be fine. Dont forget to widen the back as well.

Regards Bad Banshee

[OZ_450]

Bad Banshee wrote:

Mate dont put them on the front especialy that wide. If anything put them on the rear dont have your front wider than the back thats how you usually roll it. As an example my girls 700 comes standard with the front wider than the back and that can make them very tippy. I put 2 inch spacers on the rear and she now throws it around like a 450. Regards Bad Banshee

where did you get that idea from? with rear wider then the front u get the trike effect hence why quads came out . in turns i found front wider on my old banshee made it turn alot better and stop the back from being as taily on loose stuff

i agree with widening a quad for sure unless u get a new race model thats already widened

i just dont beleive the front wider makes it more unstable then the rear being wider then the front if anythink i beleive the opposite like out how much easier it is to tip a trike then a quad in stock forms for your anser there
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[Overlord]

OZ why dont you go back into exile, I said in a previouse post it was my personal oppinion and to show you have no idear ask my girl how many times she put her KFX 700 on its roof before I put 2 inch spacers on the rear we all know they are wider in the front than the rear she now throws it around like a 450 with out a sight of rolling it. CARNT YOU READ. Dont get sore because Banshees produce more power than 4 strokes. As for the Banshee wider in front and narrower in the rear thats rubbish. We heard your personal oppinion now buzz off and let the guy make his own decision. Gee OZ dont I hear your Master calling. Betta run boy.

[OZ_450]

lol you got defencive fast


throws a 700 round like a 450 well i would love to see that haha

act ???? see you at tri state with ya banshee then hey ???

yeah they produce more power i havent said a banshee dont .... but a 4 stroke produces more USABLE power ( traction wise) i used to own a banshee with a bit modded on it ...... would i own a banshee now ? hell no..... i prefer comfort to power and the 4 stroke has all the power i need

oh and for the record 4 strokes produce more wins then your banshee in last 4 years look at results yourself and thats in most types of racing
so more power dont always produce results as at end of the day it is who finishes at the top

and havent been in exile been busy doing our house renovations

as for master .... isnt JMC yours since you advertise him enough hahaha
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Last edited by OZ_450 on Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:07 pm; edited 2 times in total

[bigjon]

I carnt read or spell.

carnt /karnt/ v. contraction of carnnot.
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[OZ_450]

haha Jon me either and i cant ride either according to Mad Krankshee
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[t&l performance]

Bad Banshee wrote:

OZ why dont you go back into exile, I said in a previouse post it was my personal oppinion and to show you have no idear ask my girl how many times she put her KFX 700 on its roof before I put 2 inch spacers on the rear we all know they are wider in the front than the rear she now throws it around like a 450 with out a sight of rolling it. CARNT YOU READ. Dont get sore because Banshees produce more power than 4 strokes. As for the Banshee wider in front and narrower in the rear thats rubbish. We heard your personal oppinion now buzz off and let the guy make his own decision. Gee OZ dont I hear your Master calling. Betta run boy.

i have 3 kfx 700s and standard width there worse than a craptor 660 all spacers are a cheap junk but good enough to u get the $$$$ for plus 3 arms and axle like i did now u cant roll it

[OZ_450]

hey 700 quad now u have +3 arms can you answer something for me buddy ?

can you throw yours around like a 450 or you think that is impossible??
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[t&l performance]

im 6foot6 and 130kgs i can throw around a 800 renegade like a blaster but thats me one of these 700s i got is me missus bike and she can bang it around real good but shes been on the same bike every weekend for 4yrs if its gona be an outgoing argument post some footage of her throwing it around

[OZ_450]

no wasnt meaning that just havent really seen a kfx 700 with mods be ridden is all was curious to how they handled

only seen a stockish one trail ridden and we lost that in pines pretty easy we were on banshees but they guy on the 700 may have been only learning on it

video would be good be interesting to see how fast Mad Krankshee's banshee is since he has said it is fast aswell as the 700 getting thrown around
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[t&l performance]

with plus 3 a arms and plus axle they are a completely different bike like night and day in standard form they are a slug me missus has her pink kfx800 on here 4sale that has just shy of 73 rwhp mine u thats going thru a belt drive and shaft drive that has a 800bbk forgies ported heads stg 3 cams has elkas overdrive clutch twin 36mm down drafts and it fukn hammers pulls like a train never had another quad come near it but were u kill the 450s on the staits and blitz them of the mark they will always catch u on the corners amd jumps at the end of the day there auto heavy shaft drive but you can wheelie them till u run out of fuel

[Dazz]

ive been looking into a-arms on ebay
there like $600 australian

almost twice the price of the +5 extention kit...


does anyone know if yfz or raptor660 /700 a-arms fit the 350 ?

[bullet]

Dazz wrote:

ive been looking into a-arms on ebay there like $600 australian almost twice the price of the +5 extention kit...

Sometimes you get what you pay for
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[Overlord]

Gee Oz wouldnt be hard for my girl to give you a leason in riding. If you want some lessons she reckons she throw the first one in for free. She will even teach you how to wheelstand a KFX oh I forgot there not capable of that cause there not a race bike. Atleast 700Quad knows what he is talking about. By the way Oz the people that matter have seen my Banshee go especially my mate who got smoked on his 09 KTM 300 with paddle good enough for ya mate. Like to see ya little 450 do that and I have the vid to prove it but like I said the people that matter have already seen it. Mate one day you will respect other peoples oppinions like I do but I suppose there's plenty of time for you to grow up yet.

Like I keep saying back to exile with ya ASAP.

[OZ_450]

haha hey hmm paddle thats sand ..... i do ride some sand but i prefer mx i also do some trail riding

you only ride sand i take it bad banshee? so your opinion is based on one type of riding only huh?

and why is it you can have your opinion and i cant??

ok cool next time i see you post some bullshit dribble about racing i will be telling you to get back into your sand pit as for seeing my 450 do this or that hell the 450 jumps well like to see your banshee do that and it corners awesomely like to see your shee do that and even better i can fly through whoops with no punishment on my body and the ltr soaks it up great like to see that shee of yours do that jeez end of day it is what floats ya boat all i said was that rear wider then the front is no diff to a trike lol and you got all personal ......... way you guys are going you wont have stockton soon then what ya gunna do with a hopped up banshee like yours sit it in the shed as a trophy ??? have a nice day

oh for record i ride a 25 km by 5 km sand area that matches if not is better then stockton just ask a few boys who have ridden there
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enough bass to compensate for lack of skills
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