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Noy Q75
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hello everyone.Sorry i think i have asked this once before. i have a issue were i have been out riding on our new pony express track and i had a guy follow me today on also a 700 raptor like mine. and as we were going around the track my bike was going side ways around the corners nearly spinning out were he was just going around the corner with no issues..what am/have i done wrong .we had the same tyres .maxxis razr2.
my quad has the following parts for the drive set up.
yfz 450 shocks
loan star A arms +2+1
loan star rear axle +2
front rims have 1inch off set outwards
i am running 3.5 psi in front and back of the tyres.
i am up for trying anything to fix this issue any ideas would be great Thanks.
Barry 
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| 5 to 8 psi all round and steer damper its good |
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Noy Q75
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| quad wrote: | | 5 to 8 psi all round and steer damper its good |
pump the tyre pressure up that high ?? what dose that do ??
i have a steering dampner to .2nd one the 1st got touched by a tree 
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check your alignment/toe in put a bit more air in tyres 5front/4.5rear & see what it does.
try running same corners a gear higher maybe too much break loose.
have ya tried swapping quads for a lap to see how his handles? - might be operator error 
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its too wide
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Yeah swap quads for the same corner to rule out rider technique.
It could be a weight distribution thing (where you sit).
If the problem stays with the bike it could still be a mechanical weight distribution thing, like ride heights.
Measure the ride height differences between the bikes.
I'll bet your back end is too low in relation to the front (being too high).
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angus350
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i reckon its the rider
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Noy Q75
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The front end is 1310mm wide and the rear is 1285mm wide.dose this help at all.???
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: rider |
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Yep sounds like a rider issue...
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I'm no expert but I would try set it up with the same track width front and back (I think you said you run +2 a-arms with +1 offset rims so you're effectively +3 up front, perhaps try standard offset rims). Toe-in/Toe-out will effect cornering, I think 5-10mm toe-in is the norm most general riding.
I would definitely swap bikes with your mate to help identify if it is a setup or rider problem.
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Noy Q75
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Thanks for your info guys i will play around with the width some more and see if that makes a diffrence. and yes it could be the rider  i do get happy on the go fast lever so it could be me 
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| GYTR raptor wrote: | | Thanks for your info guys i will play around with the width some more and see if that makes a diffrence. and yes it could be the rider i do get happy on the go fast lever so it could be me |
Just get a 2 stroke and you want have that problem they just blow up all the time lol
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: Sideways |
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| Definately the rider... |
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| angus350 wrote: | | i reckon its the rider |
get a KFX700...
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| [quote="GYTR"]The front end is 1310mm wide and the rear is 1285mm wide.dose this help at all.???[/quote]gday mate i know from my go cart racing days we used to widen or narrow the rear wheels depending on track the more narrow the more you get oversteer so try making the rear a little wider a bit at a time |
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Noy Q75
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for some reason i have pumped the tyers up to 5psi and the hugs the corners the only issue now is i go into the corners a bit quick and over shot them .haha i must slow down around corners ..haha one day
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