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[HUGE]

Dose any one know what’s going on next year with the MX in QLD?

Is it possible to organize a genuine QLD state championship?
Form where I sit it looks like the north and central QLD guys and girls are growing in numbers and the local south numbers are diminishing

It looks like there are a number of good clubs around that are more than happy to support quad riders and there families
Clubs like
Clermont
Roma
Rockhampton
Chinchilla
Emerald
Blackwater
Just to name some that I know (and I don’t race)

So why can’t we organize a decent 4 or 5 round QLD state championship ending with the QLD state titles?

Is it lack of support behind the seens?
Is it lack of rider numbers?
Don’t ppl won’t to travel?
Do we all leave it up too one or two ppl and hope for a miracle?

Just throwing it out there (you can tell me to pull my head in if you like) but I would just like to watch some action packed racing

Thanks HUGE

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[450yam2]

Huge
Some of us are talking at the moment, thinking pretty much as you said 3 - 5 rounds to start, spread over the state.
All classes inc A, B C womens , vets, juniors to accomodate all.
Will be talking some more at Clermont this weekend as there will be a good spread of riders from around QLD.

Need to action quick so all suggestions welcome

[HUGE]

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[ace209]

yeah wat lee was sayin theres a lot of interest in mx in qld so where lookin to get a good sires goin that will cater for all levels of compatition so that the new comers arnt scared off by the more expirienced riders n also gonna get right behind the juniors cause they r the future in the sport, we hav a lot of interest also from clubs as u said huge so it looks good for next year, so anyone not goin to clermont this weekend ,would love to hear ur thoughts n suggestions so that we can try to please all quad riders...
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[cam20]

Hi guys sounds like a great idea am really keen to help out where i can. im based in rocky so i can chat to some guys round here. see you at the school.....ill bring it up out there this weekend.

Cheers cam

[JB83]

There is a genuine QLD MX Championship (sanctioned by MQ) held over 5 rounds and it's called THUNDER X, and it seems to be the same crew of guys racing it year after year. It may be held dominantly in Southern Queensland but this year travels as far North as Rockhampton. If we support this series it's highly possible that other classes could be included to give the newcomers a go. If this series goes back to where it was at one point in 2005 (with only 5 riders) we can kiss it goodbye, and the chance at possibly being included in another QLD series that isn't piggybacked off club days and only run by quad riders.
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[450yam2]

I have tried to push you argument JB and Thunder X is a good thing but juniors will never be catered for, and the clubmen riders and majority of women do not want to race with the a grade riders, they keep saying it again and again.
Thunder X doesn't seem to have progressed from where it was in 2001, maybe it is time for a change.
I think there is around 30 riders booked for the coaching clinic this weekend only 3 hours from Rocky - they are not racing cause Thunder X does not cater for them.
Will put your thoughts to the guys on saturday and see what they say - will let you know at rocky on Sunday

[JB83]

It will be interesting to see how many juniors are at the coaching clinic on the weekend and where they're located within the state. We all know that clubs start with juniors and obviously progress from there aswell. We are fortunate that THUNDER X does cater for quads and I know that twice now we have had to fight to keep us there. I agree it hasn't progressed much since 01 but from MQ's perspective thats saying quads in QLD haven't progressed much. As far as women and clubman riders are concerned, my point is that if we turn up to Thunder X events with full grids everytime and the possibility of more entries then we may be able to split the group into separate categories, and possibly even 2 or more races and have prizes for them.
This is my fifth year in the series and at first it was great fun as everyone was on standard machines and racing was close and exciting. I think the biggest problem faced by Joe blake quad riders is the race of the cheque book. I don't believe it's the speed of the faster riders that scare new racers, I believe it's the thought of going and spending up to $30,000 to try and be at the front of the pack that turns them away, I know at least 4 riders who have quit due to the expense of our sport.
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[Dingo555]

How can anybody truly say that the thunderx is a Qld championship when is doesn't cater for half the state. A true state series would have to run at least to Townsville area. The people that are genuinely interested in competing for the championship will travel anywhere for it, while it would give other classes a chance to grow by offering more chances for people all over the state particullary beginners to race.

The most important thing is we all need to get of our butts and stop trying to piggyback of 2 wheel racing and make our events stictly quad. It's hard enough to get 1 class of quads into a 2 wheel meeting let alone 4 or 5 classes to cover women and juniors as well. Initially there would probably be smaller numbers but that would also allow the chance to run a couple of different formats e.g. motox and natural terrain to possibly attract a wider range of riders from different disciplines. All sorts of opportunities also exist to inject *fun* rather then *winning* racing towards juniors with more time available.

There seems to be a mentality that to get any numbers to a race meeting it has to be held in SE Qld. I think NQ and definately CQ are starting to prove that very wrong and need to be given more representation at MQ level to show that. Some of the latest heavily publicised SE quad events have been very poorly represented by us, which brings me back to people need to get off their butts, pitch in, think about areas to race other than your own back yard and most importantly speak as 1 voice no matter what your discipline.
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[450yam2]

Dingo, Thunder X is the QLD Quad NT MX Championship, it got that way by the hard work of quad riders. Same as it is for the 2 wheelers.
I don't really think we need another championship, just a 3 or 4 round series that caters for serious racers and families. - eg Hardiman cup
Having more than one stand alone quad event (QLD MX Titles) will neally be impossible as we do not have the officials etc to run events, hard enough to get riders to join a club.
Some smaller clubs only get 60 -80 riders on a club day and would love to have 5 extra classes on the day - See you Sat

[lukeb]

Thunder X is good fun but i dont think it is truely MX and it doesnt intrest me, it is true the best way to get more quad classes is to approach the clubs that have a smaller amount of numbers and they can fit us in, we can easily run a junior class and 2 senior classes next year and that is a start, i have seen it happen before and want to see it again, we should write down what we feel and all talk about it on saturday at clermont, if anyone at clermont this saturday sits back and doesnt say anything and then gets on here monday morning whinging saying they dont agree then we know who the bullshiters are and better off without them, this is a good start lets make it happen.
Luke
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[fourtrax]

hey guys,

As dingo said we need to have one voice. And that voice is the QQRA.
Yes we are SEQ orientated, but thats because 99% of our members are in south east qld. We have made a positive move this year in appointing Dingo as our CQ representative and we are the only body representing quads in Qld. Guess who got us into thunderX originally? Guess who stopped us getting kicked out of thunderx last year? thats right, the QQRA. Derek Rumble is our voice at the MQ level and we couldnt do without him. And i truely believe without the QQRA quads would go 5 steps backwards. If your not a member, join now while you can.
Oh and by the way, who got the qld titles started and pushed it the last so many years? the QQRA.....
If it wasnt for the hard work of the QQRA and people like Derek and other past and present committee members, quads would not even be allowed to race at local club days....

We can have a true state champs series, but we neen more numbers...
simple as that. at any one time we have around 50 club members. I think Vic has about 150-200. And that my friends is the difference!

over and out....

[Dingo555]

450yam2 wrote:

Dingo, Thunder X is the QLD Quad NT MX Championship, it got that way by the hard work of quad riders. Same as it is for the 2 wheelers. I don't really think we need another championship, just a 3 or 4 round series that caters for serious racers and families. - eg Hardiman cup Having more than one stand alone quad event (QLD MX Titles) will neally be impossible as we do not have the officials etc to run events, hard enough to get riders to join a club. Some smaller clubs only get 60 -80 riders on a club day and would love to have 5 extra classes on the day - See you Sat

I agree we don't need another championship but we do need something that caters for all of Qld. As for not having enough officials that gets to my point of people getting of their butt and helping out. My understanding is that officials courses are free of charge so what is stopping people. Something we are trying to do in Clermont is getting quad riders to turn up and help at 2 wheel events, just like they are helping out with the quad titles.

Personal experience tells me that a lot of smaller clubs and even some of the larger clubs have no interest at all in including quads in their programs. What we do have is a fairly good spread of clubs up to at least as far Townsville that will already run us so why not support them.

For myself to travel to ThunderX this year is roughly 3380kms for 5 hrs racing compared to somebody from Brisbane who only has to travel 1870kms (nearly half the distance) and most meetings would require me to take a day of work to keep the travel/sleep/race equation balanced.

If you offer enough classes of racing people will come. We have shown that, at Moranbah Speedway with over 15 competitors on several nights to a no reward event, compared to 4 riders turning up to a premier Gold Coast event with prize money on offer. You have to offer the less competitive classes to drag the average Joes in who just want some fun and the only person they really want to beat is their mate sitting beside them.

I know I may sound biased but it does get frustrating that what keeps being called a Qld series would be lucky to actually cover a quarter of the state. The QQRA is a great idea for having one voice although we seem to be in a catch 22 situation with it. The QQRA won't move away from pushing the SE Qld racing because thats where the main membership base is and NQ and CQ riders are hesitant to join because there seems to be very little interest and some opposition in pushing the racing scene further northward. The QQRA has made some great gains in the Qld racing scene but needs to make a fair dinkum effort to support, encourage and represent all of Qld.

As Luke said lets have a good get together at Clermont and see if we can get the ball rolling
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[Postie]

We went down to the first round of the Hardiman cup in Quirindi , 5 hours from sydney instead of doing the hervey bay round of TX !
Expert , Intermediate , Clubman, Vets And women's class where all evenly matched and well represented . I noticed apart from it being one of the best motoX tracks I'd ever run a wheel over instead of 3 people driving home with trophies and incentive to return to following rounds, their was 15 placegetters and all counterparts seemed willing to return to recontest !
I know if I was going to Cleremont this weekend , I would drive the 10 hours to the 2nd round for another lash !

From what I am told this series began with less riders than what we have in Qld at the moment , I think it is a prime example of what we can do for next year !
See yez on the strongend !

[Prokiwi]

U guys need to broaden your horizon and offer more variety.
Not everybody who rides a quad wants to race MX.

And dont even get me started on the QQRA ......... some of them need to learn some manners first , then the QQRA might be supported a wee bit better .LOL !!

I agree with Dingo .....spread the love around a bit further ....... try something different...
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[fourtrax]

thanks again for your input prokiwi, once again you've added your view but contributed nothing...

if the "hotair" quad riders on this forum want to do more than "talk it up" then i suggest you put your comments to the quad club by email or personally at one of there meetings. if you want things changed this is the way to do it.

Or you could pm dingo with your views as he is on the committee at the club, at least this way your views are official.

just my 2 cents

[Prokiwi]

geez 4 trac ...there u go again ..........

u really dont get it do you , not everyone wants to join the QQRA ,
that dosn't mean we dont want to ride and grow the sport.....

where have all the trail riders gone from this forum ?? and why did they leave ???.

There is life after mx racing .........

(P.S i have been bombarded by PM's of support over my comment , that tells me something ) !!

All I was suggesting was that some people need to open there eyes and minds to quad riding outside of a mx track. I have lived ATV's in NZ for the past 15yrs....... and unfortunately saw mx racing wreck ATV clubs there by their closed minded attitude.

just my 2.cents worth .....
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[fourtrax]

i know what your saying prokiwi, problem is that the title of this thread is
about the 2009 mx titles!

p.s concerning your comment about the NZ scene, i attended the NZ MX titles last year and the overall racing was awesome. I was especially impressed with the juniors who mainly rode trx300ex's. This is one area where Australia could learn from our sheep loving mates...!

[HUGE]

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[ace209]

verry interestin wat u all hav to say ,,, how about we do something about it hey ,, the qqra is a obviously known to all maybe it should start standing up for wat the name implies QUEENSLAND QUAD RIDERS (not south east queensland thunder x) maybe this club needs some big changes, like a whole new commity that is based throughout QLD not just around brisy....lets think about it how many people r gonna travel hours just 4 a meeting in brisbane 4 a start bugger all actually probably none n it doesent hav to be all about mx, to me thats all im interested in at the moment but there are plenty of people that want trails we gotta cater for all discaplines of the sport thats the only way its gonna grow.....I was in clermont on sat\sun n there was a lot of posative infomation passed around i think everone who was there will agree....so lets here a few more voices on here we always here from the usual people, if we all want to move this sport foward we all need to speak up,, EVERYONE !!!!
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[Prokiwi]

So why can’t we organize a decent 4 or 5 round QLD state championship ending with the QLD state titles?

Is it lack of support behind the seens?
Is it lack of rider numbers?
Don’t ppl won’t to travel?
Do we all leave it up too one or two ppl and hope for a miracle?

Just throwing it out there (you can tell me to pull my head in if you like) but I would just like to watch some action packed racing

Huge , as per the actual content of your origional post , I am trying to throw another "angle" as to why a lot of quad riders do not support a qld series.
Once again ill state ....... the sport needs to introduce more than just mx racing. Events like thundercross, non competitive days, speedway, cross country, trials, hill climbs , sand week, etc etc etc are a more varied way of introducing new rides to the different options available.
Having competed at least once in each of the above types of events , i can say that MX is at the bottom of the list for me personally (mostly due to fitness) ,. but because no emphasis is put into the others on a regular basis, I , like many others simply go do our own thing.
Have any of you ever ridden in the sand with 30 other riders for 2 hrs non stop.....if u have then you will know what I am talking about ..... there are soooo many ways to introduce new people to the sport , then allow them to develop their preferences on their own. We need to look at the big picture stuff.
Once again I am prepared to back any event that I can , with my time and my money, just want people to open their eyes so we can actually grow the sport in general , which in turn will grow the individual event support.
I for one would love to do a week at stockton .......... anyone keen. ???
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[ace209]

prokiwi u hav brought up some real good points , this is wat we need to hear. I think the main probleme in Qld is that there r a lot of talkers out there, we need more people to take controll, i think if u wont a week at stockton just arange it wit plenty of notice n i think u'll get numbers , but a week is a long time for people to take at any one time for anythin.everyone just wants to ride but not many want to orginise it that is the probleme, but in sayin that i think everyone wants to support the sport....SO LETS START TO ORGINISE
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