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darkchild666
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: registering a quad Reply with quote Back to top

Why can't we get quad registered to be used on the roads?

If we got indicators,mirrors,road tyres,the right gearing and wear a helmet,Do a couple of road safety courses, then why the f*%k can"t we get em registered...

There's "profanity removed" loads more accidents/deaths on road and road/trail bikes then quads.
I belive with the state of our roads compared to other countries, road
bikes are more dngerous then any quad...

I would love to be able to ride my quad to work...
(without worrying about a cop catching me ) Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey darkchild,

put down the needle and unstrap your arm big fella !
 
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triple"A"
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

quads are road legal in some parts of asia and europe, maybe it's just a matter of time b4 they are legal here? or maybe i gotta leave the drugs alone too
 
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rapmat
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

road rego is just a matter of time although NSW will proberly be last to take up the challenge as usual...




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Big Jb TRX450
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

[quote="rapmat"]road rego is just a matter of time although NSW will proberly be last to take up the challenge as usual...



gday rap, just wondering how you figure its just a matter of time b4 road rego is legal for ATV's?, i live in VIC & rec reg doesnt even exist here & vic quad riders club is trying to get it established & this process has been going on 4 some time. Not having a crack @ u but id just like to know how u figure its only a matter of time?
I would love to see road rego in place for atv's but if (in vic) we dont have it for in the bush then how will we get them on the road?
 
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rapmat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

well i guess its partly my sinical side were i just believe we will end up either owned by the americans or exactly like them in every way Smile although parts of europe have road rego for atvs and some asian countries have it ... as time goes by and our voice gets louder and more sustained we too will enjoy the pleasures ( and perils) of road registered quads
 
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rapmat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

just one more point on the subject b4 i join previous respondants on the drugs SmileSmile at the moment we have conditional rego in NSW which allows us to ride Stockton beach ... unless your a primary producer and then your conditional rego allows you to ride on the streets in order to access different parts of your property for the purposes of carrying out your duties as a farmer etc... not too big a leap from here one would hope to get some sort of extension to these conditions
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

rapmat wrote:
just one more point on the subject b4 i join previous respondants on the drugs SmileSmile at the moment we have conditional rego in NSW which allows us to ride Stockton beach ... unless your a primary producer and then your conditional rego allows you to ride on the streets in order to access different parts of your property for the purposes of carrying out your duties as a farmer etc... not too big a leap from here one would hope to get some sort of extension to these conditions


interesting....the stockton beach thing, wouldnt that fall under rec reg?. One point i would like to make about the conditional rego for primary producers is that if people with "sports" atv's may get these types of rego's & abuse it . perfect example is blasting up & down local streets, we must keep in check & restrict where we ride & stay well away from local streets & towns...fingers crossed that our voices are heard & one day we can get the proper rego for the bikes we ride...to me at the end of the day i dont see atv's being anymore dangerous than 2 wheelers so hopfully the pollies will give us a fair go
 
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rapmat
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

the stockton beach thing is as i understand it still conditional rego and the conditions are such that you restrict all riding to the confines of stockton beach... ( proberly the same thing as rec rego in essence) .. your right in saying the 2 wheeled variety are less safe even if you average out the amount of riders/accident ratio across the board we still come up trumps.


ps ... working on the pollies as we speak
 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i reckon the reason its not legal is cause we want it so much. Imagine if it was legal, we'd all be up on two wheels round every corner. Yeeew it'd be sick, but i know for one thing, i'd be in hospital alot more then i already am.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

From what I have heard the issue isn't with registraition rather it is licensing like when quads first started racing. CAMS didn't want to know about us because we have handle bars and MA didn't want us because we have 4 wheels. Having a car or a bike license doesn't necessarily mean that you can ride a quad and we are a minority so they file it in the too hard basket. If we were an ethnic minority and wanted the license tests written in our native language so we didn't have to learn English it would be no problem.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone ever thought of taking it up with the relative roads authorities? Or the local government?
 
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woody01
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: Rec Reg for quads Reply with quote Back to top

I have been trying to get Rec Reg for Vic for 4 years now. You can read the history at www.qrcv.com.au/rec_reg.htm

I recently heard from Vic Roads to tell me that they had again declined another application and unless there is a change in staff or government Rec Reg will never be achieved in Vic.

It is up to the manufacturers now but the only reason that Quads can not be registered is that they dont have a compliance plate. Simple as that.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Rec Reg for quads Reply with quote Back to top

woody01 wrote:
It is up to the manufacturers now but the only reason that Quads can not be registered is that they dont have a compliance plate. Simple as that.


If that is the only problem, given you can get imported bikes and cars complianced I'm off to my local bike importer for a compliance check. I'm pretty sure he'll tell me to p@#s off as even with a compliance plate it still has to meet tyre coverage, lighting and all the other crap that a road registered vehicle has to. As I said they don't know how to classify a quad and couldn't be bothered. Check out this link: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/legislation/legislativeinstrumentcompilation1.nsf/framelodgmentattachments/2B7123187B374A3DCA25719200058DB2
It has 2 and 3 wheeled vehicles then goes onto passenger vehicles, buses and trucks. Quads don't fit into any of those categories so unless the ADR's get changed you can't get compliance. If you can't get compliance they won't even worry about how to licence the rider.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just found this site, be prepared 2 b a bit shocked thou, talking about regestering quads, this has got a 2 cyl, 4 stroke boxer engine, 16 inch rims, 90 Bhp and speeds of 105 Mph, type in www.gg-technik.ch click on english on right of screen, then click on the GG-Quad, and have u ever ridden a quad at speed on the bituman, if not set up 4 motard they twitch every where when u push em, thou the hill down the way from where i am on the main road i hit at 145 kph sideways on a banshee but found the newer yfz's etc to loose traction when slightly wet, i'm just runnen knobbies on the tarmac so doies are a piece of cake! it's because of the locked diff as the RTA call it thats the problem, i enquired about ti years ago and there worried about the tractoin loss round corners because both wheels spin at same speed, opposite 2 a car, and not 2 mention the fact they've never riden one either dosn't help there view either
 
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woody01
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Rec Reg for quads Reply with quote Back to top

Quads don't fit into any of those categories so unless the ADR's get changed you can't get compliance.

You just said it yourself. ATV's need to comply with ADR's. Unless the ATV's come out with compliance plates from the manufacturer so that they comply with ADR's it won't happen. At present VicRoads classify ATV's as motor cars as they don't have their own classification and won't. If ATV's were classified as motorcycles it would be easier as we know that some 2 wheelers don't have compliance plates but can be made compliant. This has all been covered before and is on the qrcv website.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

just goes round & round & round doesnt it woody?
 
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