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[vjcrose]

ok
what is your perfered motox class and what classes do you think should be offered to best cater for all the riders
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[OZ_450]

think all classes should be catered for where possible and i think this poll is a waste of time (edit*** stated as above post did not have that it was for a event) as some states dont have some classes and also as a rider ya have to go in a class that is suited to u or graded to as 13 to 16 is limited to 200 to 300cc class and first time riders to clubman ect
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[doorslammer]

we only have three of those classes
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[ATV PRO]

Would like to Race Vets 40+ (As I'm 44) the classes to be 35-39 and 40 + if numbers are low they could still run together .Its hard enough racing at 44 let alone against 35 year old spring chickens This can be written in the sup regs as it has been for the up and comming QLD titles ,but for some reason the last Nationals they did the 35-45 and 45+ ??
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[Mrs_Gaitar]

Pro
Intermediate
Clubman

Womens
Vets 35+
Vets 40+

Junior 200cc 2 stroke - 300cc 4 stroke
Junior 90cc 2 stroke - 110cc 4 stroke modified and standard
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[vjcrose]

OZ_450 wrote:

think all classes should be catered for whgere possible and i think this poll is a waste of time as some states dont have some classes and also as a rider ya have to go in a class that is suited to u or graded to as 13 to 16 is limited to 200 to 300cc class and first time riders to clubman ect

well OZ_450 I am so pleased that once again you have an opinion - I have heard a rumor that you ride clubman even though you blitz the field but still don't move up a class.... why is that?


HOWEVER

as I am on several committees who organize events I want to know what people think would be best to offer dependent upon nomination numbers in their opinion - you know that thing other people some times have.... if you care to listen.... you may like to try it.... one day....
The poll is asking what you would enter if you had the chance...

doorslammer - which three and do you think they suit the field of riders?

ATV NRG - I believe there are some really really fast masters out there... I wish I had their talent. Hey hows about coming to the Alice Springs masters games in Oct 2008 - you have to be over 30 to enter then the classes are 30-35 35-40 40-45 45-50 50-60 60-70 70+
This year will be my first entry - only watched last time in 2006 and I didn't realize they were going to run quads

I have been asked recently to pick 5 quad classes to run at an event so any and all input is welcome - yes even you OZ 450
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[ATV PRO]

ATV NRG - I believe there are some really really fast masters out there... I wish I had their talent. Hey hows about coming to the Alice Springs masters games in Oct 2008 - you have to be over 30 to enter then the classes are 30-35 35-40 40-45 45-50 50-60 60-70 70+
This year will be my first entry - only watched last time in 2006 and I didn't realize they were going to run quads

Hey vjcrose thanks for the invite ,sounds like a hoot !!! Like the spread of classes -nyce ,I feel 5 years when your that old is enough difference between classes I will be possibly going to Darwin to the Joe Bird event to Race prepare Ant Yewers Honda's , Racing and supporting State Titles Clermont in QLD ,Racing and supporting Vic Titles and Racing and Race preparing Ant Yewers Honda Nationals Tasmania
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[Mrs_Gaitar]

5 classes

Pro/inter
Clubman
Women
200cc
90cc
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[vjcrose]

ATV NRG wrote:

ATV NRG - I believe there are some really really fast masters out there... I wish I had their talent. Hey hows about coming to the Alice Springs masters games in Oct 2008 - you have to be over 30 to enter then the classes are 30-35 35-40 40-45 45-50 50-60 60-70 70+ This year will be my first entry - only watched last time in 2006 and I didn't realize they were going to run quads Hey vjcrose thanks for the invite ,sounds like a hoot !!! Like the spread of classes -nyce ,I feel 5 years when your that old is enough difference between classes I will be possibly going to Darwin to the Joe Bird event to Race prepare Ant Yewers Honda's , Racing and supporting State Titles Clermont in QLD ,Racing and supporting Vic Titles and Racing and Race preparing Ant Yewers Honda Nationals Tasmania

if you come up we will look after you - the 5 classes are for the Joe Bryd special as we need to get the sub regs out soon...
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[OZ_450]

vjcrose wrote:

well OZ_450 I am so pleased that once again you have an opinion - I have heard a rumor that you ride clubman even though you blitz the field but still don't move up a class.... why is that?

hey i was asked to go in clubman since it is first season of racing if it is so big a deal i will move up ......... can you ask qrcv is i can take my points to expert with me as if i cant well i wasted 2 rounds then havent i

as for blitz the feild hmm i won 1 race at colac round and won 2 in mt gambier round and mt gambier is my home track and i was not far ahead of Nathan in 2nd race ask anyone who was there if i blitzed lol

maybe you need to read between the lines of what is reported love to know who is saying i am blitzing as i wish i was
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[vjcrose]

perhaps you need to take that as a compliment
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[OZ_450]

why didnt you state you needed 5 claases not how you posted the opening thread post


open
vets
womens
200cc juniors
90cc
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[vjcrose]

cause it will not always be 5 - and it's nice to know what people think would be popular
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[OZ_450]

well prefered classes is always going to be the one that covers everyone lol look at wa or qrcv for best classes just go look at the class with most ppl running in them

one forgotten on is production class
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[Barney]

I am of the beleif that if knowledge is gained by the general people of all aspects of quaders world it means that organisers have more information as to what fields or classes to run.

To say it is a waste of time is somewhat a very one eyed opinion.

i wish people would take more of a positve approach to all aspects of quading , be it racing, trail riding, sports quad and yes utility quads
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[feralkid]

OZ450 I think you need to give up. Caus vjcrose just isn't going to.
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[bullet]

Only 5 classes makes it tough.
It can depend on your local field or who can afford to travel.
Entrant numbers are important too.
If you have 20 entrants or less 5 classes might be a bad idea.

Me, I like the fullest grids of most evenly matched riders.
And race length needn't be much longer than the field takes to seperate to their respective positions.
I think those two points are really important for spectators, sponsorship and sport growth.
Events really should be aimed at sport growth, which is probably not exactly what riders initially jump for.

Riders might ideally choose a class that they have a good chance at getting a podium in.
But who else would be interested if each fiel had 3 entrants.
Imagine if they seperated in the first lap and then followed each other around for 20 minutes.

So yeah, it's not easy.

I think you'd have to have a long race (maybe 15min+1) open Pro class to keep an elite level presence and give people a crack at the title.
Then a womens class is probably the next most logical.

After that you're gunna keep some of the people happy and upset the rowdy minority.

Hey I could have said...
Pro Jumbo's
Jumbettes
Old Jumbo's
OEM Jumbo's
and of course a Renegade class.
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[doorslammer]

vjcrose wrote:

doorslammer - which three and do you think they suit the field of riders?

we have got
clubman vets and pro

the vets and clubman race together, and we have a female racer.

other than that the the riders seem to suit the classes.
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[Barney]

How interesting is the poll ,, well done, the results so far are very interesting
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[Gravedigger]

I'm with Bullet, best to grow and develop the sport. Good post VJCROSE you will only get an idea of classes that will be popular for particular event if you ask, can't see it wasting time if it helps you organize an event for us. Settle OZ450 and just enjoy your battle out thereon the track, hope to catchup with you at Outrim.
Cheers Dean.

[Huskygoat]

Thanks for the help. For some reason we struggle getting 200-300 juniors here in Darwin. At best 4-5 and Locky Stone is the National Champ . WE have a ruling from MA to run Womens and 200 in the same race. So the classes for Joe Byrd so far PRO
Clubmen Vets
Womens & J200
Juniors

We have 30 to 40 AG quads that race but are happy to sit out this event and work at the XXXX tent.

OK need suggestions on Laps How many?
Feature race How long?
We Have 16 Pros from Around Australia 8- 10 up and comers. we will runs transponders . AT the moment I'm thinking the 14 fastest times . looks like we have over 28 hence (start gates only hold 14 quads) 3 groups .

3 rounds for everybody + the feature race if you make it

There will be 5 classes for bikes. these are already full.

First prize is a pet croc ? great for dog and cat control!


Thanks Huskygoat

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[PeteW]

bullet wrote:

Hey I could have said... Pro Jumbo's Jumbettes Old Jumbo's OEM Jumbo's and of course a Renegade class.

Ha. that would be something to see, 20 renegades lined up in their own class at the MX......
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[lukeb]

PeteW wrote:

bullet wrote: Hey I could have said... Pro Jumbo's Jumbettes Old Jumbo's OEM Jumbo's and of course a Renegade class. Ha. that would be something to see, 20 renegades lined up in their own class at the MX......

That is great but there is a crazy grass chewing dairy farmer out there that would line up with a smile on his face with racks and all and treat us all like cattle, i for one would be a little scared if he turned up
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[Mrs_Gaitar]

Huskygoat wrote:

Thanks for the help. For some reason we struggle getting 200-300 juniors here in Darwin. At best 4-5 and Locky Stone is the National Champ . Thanks Huskygoat Territory Quad Association

Sorry I dont wish to sound picky, but Mitchell Van Vliet is the 200cc National Champ
Locky is the 90cc Champ.

4-5 200cc isnt bad, got to start somewhere, thats how many we had 3 seasons ago... numbers just kept growing, tapered off now though, we have 17 entered for next Saturdays WA State Titles including of course Locky.
MWA would never allow us to run seniors and Juniors in the same race, cant even practice on the track at the same time. Id make sure you have that one in writing, so whoever gave the ruling cant back out.

The event sounds brilliant, is it still going to be on TV?
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[bullet]

20 Renegades.... that would be like 20 angry elephants bouncing off each other
You'd have to be in on the fun Petey, so we'd let 2 seated Outlanders in as well

Seeing as Viv launched this great (contoversial) thread...
I might take the opportunity to suggest a national change to classes.

Everyone knows what Pro's is!
Expert should really be called it's real name, which is Intermediate.
Intermediate is for experienced riders who are not Pro's.
That's the definition, and I think it fits well.
The name Expert is too easily confused with Pro's, to most these words mean the same thing.
Clubman.
This is probably one of the most important classes.
Clubman really means 'club level rider' almost a social every man and his dog type class.
"Most important?" I hear some challenge?
Well it is the entry level to our sport.
Just look where the interest in VJ's poll points.
I think the queenslander have recognised that even our clubman classes look pretty bloody intimidating for a bloke walking in off the street, watching and thinking 'and I wanted to join this sport '

Here's the big one.
Should Clubman also be Production.
That is stock bikes for all clubman level racing.
This way we would have a true entry level with every entrant running 30 to 35 hp bikes.
I'm talking standard baffles, tyres and everything.
It would also give sensible progression to kids getting off Blasters etc.
Most kids are not like Mitch and Cam, who can step straight on to 50+ hp bikes and be safe and competitive.
Their parents would not loose half their body weight is sweat watching the holeshot either.

For the people arcing up right now.
The ones who want to race 50+hp machines with $10,000 worth of suspension...
Would you not consider yourself and experienced rider ???
If so, either have a crack at winning the new clubman class on a stocky with the rest of our enrty level riders....
or drag your $20,000 dollar race machine into 'intermediate'
When you get good at that... have a crack at the title and enter Pro's.

What do you all think.
Are we serious about attracting new people and growing our sport.
Or should we let 17 year old Richy Rich have a wild crack at Clubman for his first quad ride on his 61 hp US developed race weapon.


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