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gammie61
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 Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: What is a BANSHEE & what is not |
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So what constitutes the term "Banshee motor"?
Is it a 350cc 2 stroke 2 cylinder built by Yamaha?
Is it a motor built on a banshee crankcase?
Is it a motor fitted to a banshee frame?
Does it even have to be a 2 stroke?
In fact, what constitutes the term "banshee"
Is it still a banshee when the only original part left is the frame & seat?
What about when they even start to modify the frame & change the seat?
Does it need to have a Yamaha part on it to be called a Banshee?
Some of the ones you see in Dirt Wheels don't look much like the thing I own.
Where do you draw the line, or do you draw it at all?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| i have all of the above and there is no line . only the race line if that counts. and the frame whot std frame . |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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well i guess if it looks like a banshee and runs a twin cyl 2 stroke, you can class it as a banshee
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ashnery
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| 4stroker wrote: | | well i guess if it looks like a banshee and runs a twin cyl 2 stroke, you can class it as a banshee |
I agree 
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gammie61
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How about if you run the 3 cylinder 2 stroke 750cc Kawasaki motor? Is it then a KFX?
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nope, but itd be awesome!
h2 750, do you know where one is??
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gammie61
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| 4stroker wrote: | nope, but itd be awesome!
h2 750, do you know where one is?? |
Last time I saw one of those waterbuckets, as they were called, was when I had a memmory & I can't remember that far back.
I suppose they were all written off.
They were pretty popular in sidecars for speedway in their day.
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your thinking of the suzukis, the kwaka 750s were air cooled
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gammie61
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| 4stroker wrote: | | your thinking of the suzukis, the kwaka 750s were air cooled |
See, told you I couldn't remember.
The waterbucket was a 750 wasn't it?
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pretty sure they made a 750, they made a few sizes i think
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| suzuki GT750 triple waterbottle ahhhhhh those were the days |
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4 stroker- the yamaha TZ 700/750 engine top end is 2 x TZ race engine barrells & pistons ( can also use 2x TZ250= 500cc or as a lot of jnr sidecar racers did use 1x350 & 1x250 top end to make 600cc ) the entire bottom end is pure TZ and very expensive the RD LC / RZ road bike engines are a derrivative and highly detuned version of the TZ250/350 so very few parts from the RD/RZ range actually cross over to the TZ and give reliable service.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i know, pretty wild that they use two different size pistons in some engines, you would think it would throw the balance right off!
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4 stroker - yeah it did cause engines to run a little rough but in most cases they didn`t even rejet the carbs for the 250 barrells just whacked them on ( sometimes between heats ), as crank / piston life was VERY short anyway it was never even a consideration, ahhhhh!!!!!!!! those were the days real purpose built race engines how I dream!!!!!!!!, oh well back to reality!!!!!!!!!!.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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i remember a ski that had 2 different size pistons
i never thought it would work... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| quad wrote: | | OK |
OK this is what I mean.
IS THIS A BANSHEE?
It does appear to have a banshee fuel tank cover & seat.
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i reckon it is, frame looks pretty stock
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gammie61
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| 4stroker wrote: | | i reckon it is, frame looks pretty stock |
Bit hard to tell with it hidden behind those pipes.
They sort of get your attention.
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gammie61
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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If it is a banshee, IS THAT A BANSHEE MOTOR?
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its prolly a sno-mo motor
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thats a hybrid shee
frame, plastics, radiator, 2 stroke but its just got 1 more cylinder, to me thats a banshee |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| no i ride hybrid banshee. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldnt thins be like when cars get built and people put V8's in them, everyone seems to call those cars by what they started with. I reckon if you start with a banshee at the beginning of the build then it's a banshee. 
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