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Location: Newcastle
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Well I went down the shed to find out what damage I he caused last Sunday, 3 hours latter I have stripped it down to the frame.
Thought I may as well do a full resto on the old girl and now is as good a time as any.
What have I got myself into? think I'd better get a fridge for the shed.
Before Pics.
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Oldrodder
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: Resto |
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At least you'll have the 70 to keep your skills up to date on .     |
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BC250R
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i see you've got your new seat cover. have to get the pics of the naked ninja on your bike and post them up here for every one to make assumptions.
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JASE.71
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| BC250R wrote: | | i see you've got your new seat cover. have to get the pics of the naked ninja on your bike and post them up here for every one to make assumptions. |
Hey Brett I got mine too. The ninja's going to be a busy boy
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Joined: 20 Dec 2006
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Location: Newcastle
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone got any hints as to how the bloody hell this swing arm bolt comes out?
I've tried the rattle gun, sledge hammer, lube and it wont budge.
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Oldrodder
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: Swingarm bolt |
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Penetrene Oil, I have a couple of bottles if you want some.
Apart from that, oxy or 9 inch death adder. |
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Aussieduner
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="PC"]Anyone got any hints as to how the bloody hell this swing arm bolt comes out?
I've tried the rattle gun, sledge hammer, lube and it wont budge.
Ive now been through this many times Paul the bearings and bushes are rusted to the bolt,save yourself some time and anxiety order a new bolt and hacksaw it off between the frame and the outer dust cap on both sides which will get the swingarm out.
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HondaGrant
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thats the same problem our mate Anthony had and he ended up cutting his swingarm bolt out like Tony said.
It would probably be a good idea to get your hands on one of these bolts before you chop it up ,they might be one of those hard to get parts that are becoming  hard to get   .....
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PC
Joined: 20 Dec 2006
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Location: Newcastle
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Taking Aussie's advise after trying oldrodders, and about 6 hacksaw blades in Jase's air chisel and the same amount of time it takes to watch neighbours I got the swinging arm out, BUT! I still don't know how I'm going to get the rest of the bolt out of the swing arm and rear engine mount.
Anyone have a press?
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Oldrodder
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Love the Gloves |
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| Love those gloves mate, email sent regarding press etc. |
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| HondaGrant wrote: | Thats the same problem our mate Anthony had and he ended up cutting his swingarm bolt out like Tony said.
It would probably be a good idea to get your hands on one of these bolts before you chop it up ,they might be one of those hard to get parts that are becoming hard to get ..... |
400EX/450R swingarm bolt will fit as a replacement.
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| PeteW wrote: |
400EX/450R swingarm bolt will fit as a replacement. |
are they stainless?
if not i would be getting one made from stainless so it never rusts in there again!
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BC250R
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HOT TIP! wish i listened as i'm going through the same thing as big bro!
Standard bolt is hollow. Weld up both ends, tap thread in one end for grease nipple. Cross drill small holes at bearing points ( and bit in middle by the look of it). Now you have a fully greasable bearing system that can be serviced so it just dont rust and seize up in the first place. PLUS it should keep bearings smik longer and keep your rear end nice and smooth!
(sounds like getting your bum waxed )
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| Snyder motorsports on ebay makes re-greasable stainless bolts. the 400ex is cheaper than the 250r for some reason, but i think there interchangable. cost around $70-$80 shipped.. |
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JASE.71
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Hey mate that things called an air hacksaw. Forgetthe press, just "harden the f**k up & use a 4 pound hammmer & punch it out." Seriously tho ring me when your ready and I'll take it to work and heat the swing arm and punch it out for you mate
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| JASE.71 wrote: | | Hey mate that things called an air hacksaw. Forgetthe press, just "harden the f**k up & use a 4 pound hammmer & punch it out." Seriously tho ring me when your ready and I'll take it to work and heat the swing arm and punch it out for you mate |
If I start belting it it will more than likely crack the swingarm like Ant & Bretts. |
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PC
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, operation "remove this swing arm bolt".
Jase took me into his work today to try and extract the swing arm bolt.
1st Jase tried heating it up and bashing it out.
But she would not budge, I think they must bend slightly and jam.
So it was back to the grinder to cut the engine mount out.
Then a bit more heat and the rest tapped out easy.
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Dam you boys have been busy.
Looks like of out of commission for a while ,was up there today(sun) took the spare for a spin very happy with everything except there is no push button to start it...
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ashnery
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Dam you boys have been busy.
Looks like of out of commission for a while ,was up there today(sun) took the spare for a spin very happy with everything except there is no push button to start it...
there is always the spare if you get keen....
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Youngrodder
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poor $2 shopping bag...
cant wait til this is done..
then there will be 2 newly restored 250R's in the ATC... looks great btw!
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HondaGrant
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What a mission  there was no way you were ever going to get that done in you shed at home.
Did you get the old bearings out of the swingarm aswell ?
I reckon you blokes could give the mythbusters a run for their money with all them oxy torches and grinders and stuff  .
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JASE.71
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Something wrong with your camera Paul? Made me look like I got a fat beer gut. LOL. Glad you ddn't pan down and show the world my safety apparel.
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| JASE.71 wrote: | | Something wrong with your camera Paul? Made me look like I got a fat beer gut. LOL. Glad you ddn't pan down and show the world my safety apparel. |
Maybe your safety apparel was questionable but at least there is a sign on the wall warning of the dangers of smoking oxygen!
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| BC250R wrote: | | JASE.71 wrote: | | Something wrong with your camera Paul? Made me look like I got a fat beer gut. LOL. Glad you ddn't pan down and show the world my safety apparel. |
Maybe your safety apparel was questionable but at least there is a sign on the wall warning of the dangers of smoking oxygen! |
LOL... i have signs at work like that but ours say no smoking flammable liquids. And they get paid highly to come up with those signs... |
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PC
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Today's progress.
Split bottom end to install new crank and all bearings and seals.
The reason for the rebuild in the first place was a flogged out big end bearing. It worked out only $20 more to replace the whole crank than just buying a new connecting rod.
Dropped swing arm over to Ash for him to zip up some minor cracks.
Before pics of items that will be going to powder coaters tomorrow.
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