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I was there picking up Rubbish with about 10-15 other quad riders and I didn't see too many from this forum (10 or so)or for that matter the quad fraternity in general ,they were too busy ? There was an estimate of 900 people picking up Rubbish and most of the people were from 4x4 clubs as far as Woolongong.However in the speech at the end they thanked the Quad representatives for there help . We spoke to the Worimi and National parks managers , they are willing to sort out any issues ,all they want is to keep the speed down to 40 km's on the main road to the dunes ,look after the environment ,respect the stewards of the lands beliefs ,needs and keep it as safe as possible. The Aboriginal people have sections of land they want to keep sacred and go there regularly in respect for there people and beliefs .We should respect there choices ,They want everyone to be happy and use a designated areas for off roaders and in general to have fun ,with respect to the environment and the people concerned.They are not happy with some Quad people because of there lack of respect on this site,yes they saw the comments on the spear throwing comment ,not good folks . I feel people get the wrong idea and a great start would be to support events like the see red for rubbish day ,if you were not there this time,how bout next time ? There is strength in numbers ! We will soon know what we can do at Stockton and what we cant. We are working on Quad riders in joining a club in NSW that are organized and willing to support Quads,that way we can lobby to the various bodies the right way ,for now lets keep it positive and do what we can to keep our sport alive and well in NSW and Australia.
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[Ozzy84]

hit it on the head len, support on a big scale is the answer.

Im surprised more people didnt turn up for the rubbish day, would of been good to get the numbers weve seen before on stockton turn up, wouldve sent a message then.

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sioux wrote:

hahahah i think there is no cure for you

?????Please explain.
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[sioux]

well i mean the adrenalin rush you are used to
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[sioux]

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sioux wrote: i like hittin the dunes cause of the feeling of freedom while im out there im not into going at it as hard as i can i enjoy just cruzing around on the sand thats my thing anyway and i think a lot of other people go for that reason too -Stick to the RULES(rego,number plates,blinkers,speed limits,riding areas etc,etc,etc) & there SHOULD be no problem OR join/form a lobby group & change the ruleS.

i do stick to the rules always got rego and take it easy around the carpark
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[REDTED]

How about speed limits,blinkers-mirror-reflectors,riding areas? Have you read or even seen the brocure full of RULES that you get with a beach permit???
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[sioux]

sioux wrote:

hahahah i think there is no cure for you

this was meant for tod 450 not you redted
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[sioux]

and a reply to your question
i have read the brochure
and i know where the private property is worrimi land and npws areas
as far as blinkers go
who has them?
can you even get them for our bikes?
i dont know
but most of us are trying to do as much of the right thing as possible
i still go to the trouble of getting rego everytime i go there and i will continue to do so
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[Sean]

UNIONS! -brothers, comrads, fare go for all eh????? Quad bikers union of australia. we need members!
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[Barney]

I have recently , but reluctently installed a blinker system on my grizzly, and have done so for a cost of around $70.00 a very simple and easy task which is done by using led clearance lights and a special 2 pin non load sensing flasher can made by tridon part number led04 and will work with only one led connected.

The lights themself are only slightly larger than a box of matches and work well enough for the job intended happy to help anyone if assistance is required
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[rapmat]

Ozzy84 wrote:

rapmat wrote: me a weak finger pointer ...mmm i dont think so, on many occasions i have told people both on here and in person where the problems in our sport lie and more times than not i have been given the impression that people just dont give a sh##. Now with stockton on the endangered list and the rest of the state off limits to unrego vehicles its time those who ride stocko got their collective sh## together and lobbied the NPWS and their local member to keep stocko open, 4WD ers have clubs and heaps of them, they even have their own political party a decent lobby group and lots of income, we got a few blokes and girls on quads racing on the sand roostin the fishos and all else who stand in the way, no political allegiance, no cash, no industry backing. tell me who would you be betting will win the stockton beach war of 2007 ... quaders or 4wders?? If i were riding stockton more than once a year i would be more inclined to do something, stay tuned i think i might have some spare time after the election Matt More finger pointing have a go then matt, do something about it!!

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[skiart122]

Hi to all
After the ride day Saturday that I paid $145 for the 3 month rego We ended up at Anna Bay at my next door neighbours caravan as they have onsite van at the Caravan Park on the Saturday night. Therefore we used our 4wd's to clean up.

The Banshee fried the rings on the Satrurday ride day late in the afternoon. Being pp off as it is only a new motor I rolled it into the van went and picked my 4wd and went to the Anna Bay. There was a good turn out up north from every ones parties.

As I need to say through the main tracks in and of Lavis 40km and under is the way to go. Im dam shore it would be painfull launching into a 80 SERIES bullbar and once incidents like this happen we all look bad. We need to respect where we ride so it does stay around for quads/trikes bikes to be welcome. hay at the end of the day we will want our kids to enjoy it like we do and have.
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Rod

[symryk]

hi len
i would of been there for the clean up , alas len i did come off on saturday and thanks to jamie and his dad who were with me at the time , did help me back to my feet and get me going again ,
anyways , what i want to know is how and where do i go to join any club , i dont think there is one in newcastle is the is then they hide it pretty well, any info on this subject will be of great help
rick
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[sioux]

i think the problem is not in this forums members than frequent stockton
we all know the rules and we dont hang out in lavis lane
i think the problem is in the casual riders at stocko
who probably dont even realize what a problem this is creating with the childish behaviour on the dunes and lavis lane entry
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[rapmat]

sioux wrote:

i think the problem is not in this forums members than frequent stockton we all know the rules and we dont hang out in lavis lane i think the problem is in the casual riders at stocko who probably dont even realize what a problem this is creating with the childish behaviour on the dunes and lavis lane entry

make no mistake about it the users of this forum are not angels. after all the drags were organised through here via a post originally put up by a moderator who subsequently wiped his hands of organising the event leaving it to redted the guys from explosive myself and some others. over the past 6 months there has been atleast 6 more attempts by users of this site to organise more races on the beach, so the statement that members here are not to blame is a total falsehood, history does prove me correct

Matt
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[ATV PRO]

symryk wrote:

hi len i would of been there for the clean up , alas len i did come off on saturday and thanks to jamie and his dad who were with me at the time , did help me back to my feet and get me going again , anyways , what i want to know is how and where do i go to join any club , i dont think there is one in newcastle is the is then they hide it pretty well, any info on this subject will be of great help rick

Hey Rick ,
Good to hear from you,we are looking into a few clubs between Sydney and Newcastle (Central Coast maybe,when its big enough have a chapter in Sydney and Newcastle )to join that are already established with a committee,we can then get a few of us to sit on the committee on behalf of the ATV fraternity then we can lobby to the various Clubs,Government bodies,Land carers,Land owners Insurance and so on ,Keep you posted
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[ozquad44]

rapshee wrote:

Why cannot every one start doing moto x and motard have not riddin at the dunes for nearly 3 years and dont miss it at all 40min racing is hell of a lot harder than a day at the dunes.My two cents

I agree with the racing comments, I have competed on quads in MX, Dirttrack, Speedway, and Super Motard but. But don't ever wish away sand dunes with comments like that buddy. Sand dunes are just a different medium in which to enjoy our great sport. Riding quads in sand dunes is an experience that I would recommend to anyone. enthusiest or not, Its that good!

suggesting that we should only race our quads on closed circuits is a thouroughly awful thought. I love racing but putting us into little boxes like that is just not right. There are too many "do gooders" out there that think that if they give us little quad riders a little track somewhere we'll all go away.

There is enough space in this country to allow ATVers dedicated areas for sand dune riding, bush riding, and all the closed circuit type of tracks you could ever wish for. As a group there is no way we should accept how our "Elected" government officials are treating us.

Imagine if they limited all four wheel drives to closed circuits only, imagine if they limited fishermen to fish farms, imagine if they limited cycilists to velodromes, imagine if they limited climbers to indoor areas only. the list could go for ever. We as a group are well and truely under-represented in govenerment and we need a voice guys.

We vote and pay taxes. With this election, Its about now that we should be approaching out local member and getting a commitment from them. How bout we get off our arse, stop squabbling amongst ourselves over petty crap and put pen to paper (email even) and get a message to our local members!

Last time I looked I'm sure we lived in a democracy. Aboriginals have rights in those dunes and I'm not suggesting otherwise. WE have rights also, I don't want my kids growing up not having experienced sand dune riding and camping like I have enjoyed as quad/ATV rider. Start doing something boys, or well lose it and all be made into criminals, you watch!
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[Ozzy84]

rapmat wrote:

make no mistake about it the users of this forum are not angels. after all the drags were organised through here via a post originally put up by a moderator who subsequently wiped his hands of organising the event leaving it to redted the guys from explosive myself and some others. over the past 6 months there has been atleast 6 more attempts by users of this site to organise more races on the beach, so the statement that members here are not to blame is a total falsehood, history does prove me correct Matt

Like i said in the past, i organised the first one purely by setting a time and a date and a location, that was it, everyone turned up and had fun, the next time was due to everyone sending pms asking when the next one was on and it snowballed from there...

I said then a COMPANY that priviliges from these events should step up and take on the challenge of making this legal (make it official), the crowds are two big and there are two many bikes there for any one person to take resposibility for any accidents, there should be insurance and liability cover from here on, hence why i "washed my hands" of it

And the fact is everyone had a blast and now all of a sudden its the worst thing in the world to be doing, furthermore, WTF has being a moderator got to do with the price of fish?

[rapmat]

one may be forgiven for thinking moderators would have had the Best interests of the Quad community at heart, clearly not the case this time.

my point is this and i think this is to be my last word on the matter as my finger is sore from all the apparent pointing. we need organising, and politicising simple as that. if an Illeagle event is to be organised here is not the place to do it ..NPWS have the website address in their favourites.

I WILL start an advocacy group after the federal election as i am busy with the election up till nov24.

We need the support of ALL quaders not just the guys who ride stockton but those who like the fire trails too.

Membership will be FREE for the first couple of years at least.

I and whoever else wants to help with organising will be advocating on YOUR behalf

it will be know as the Recreational Off Road Riders Association (nsw)

any comments please PM me

Matt
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[SIKMIC]

rapmat wrote:

one may be forgiven for thinking moderators would have had the Best interests of the Quad community at heart, clearly not the case this time. Matt

A moderators purpose is to keep cr@p off the forum, make sure people are not doing the wrong thing. Just generally keeping it clean and family friendly. Being a moderator has nothing to do with be a quad rider/lover.
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[rapmat]

SIKMIC wrote:

rapmat wrote: one may be forgiven for thinking moderators would have had the Best interests of the Quad community at heart, clearly not the case this time. Matt A moderators purpose is to keep cr@p off the forum, make sure people are not doing the wrong thing. Just generally keeping it clean and family friendly. Being a moderator has nothing to do with be a quad rider/lover.

point taken...
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[shagger]

rapmat wrote:

one may be forgiven for thinking moderators would have had the Best interests of the Quad community at heart, clearly not the case this time. my point is this and i think this is to be my last word on the matter as my finger is sore from all the apparent pointing. we need organising, and politicising simple as that. if an Illeagle event is to be organised here is not the place to do it ..NPWS have the website address in their favourites. I WILL start an advocacy group after the federal election as i am busy with the election up till nov24. We need the support of ALL quaders not just the guys who ride stockton but those who like the fire trails too. Membership will be FREE for the first couple of years at least. I and whoever else wants to help with organising will be advocating on YOUR behalf it will be know as the Recreational Off Road Riders Association (nsw) any comments please PM me Matt

sounds like agreat start. Also with the drags has anyone thought of contacting the owners of the snadmine and asking permission to run it? If the entrants would donate some money and sign waivers saying not to sue in case of injury maybe they'd go for it.

[Barney]

IN regards to previous comments made , this is not an attack on any person or an individual, we can all revert to saying that 4wd and fisherman have access to the beaches and many other areas of parks and reserves, but the common fact is they all pay fees be it by registration and or licences.

Unfair as it seems but it is the key factor that government departments wish to control and govern, we all would like to register our quads , but how many would do it in the end even if it was to cost the same as a car registration.

In Victoria you are able to pay approx $75.00 a year to have what they call unregistered Vehicle TAC coverage on any quad which covers you for any private property usage to which you have permission to ride on, question is how many ride on there own property and dont have this cover, it is cheaper than income protection and totally covers you.

We can all sit back and whinge about what we can and cant do and how and where we can ride but at the end of the day unity will help us all and hopefully with common sense we can all enjoy our much loved sport and recreational passion for our quads.

In any sport or hobbie there are always the odd one or two that spoils it for the rest of us lets not let that happen by encouraging races on public beaches or where it is unsafe to do so.

If we all were to put our money where our mouths are and be prepared to pledge a donation to a fighting fund so as to lobby at a greater severity where we would at least be listened too and maybe have some impact , how many would people would be prepared to do so, surely there must be many as i am prepared to pledge $100.00 to a central facility be it the quad riders club or whatever, lets all combine our interests and efforts and unite.
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[bigjon]

Grizzly wrote:

IN regards to previous comments made , this is not an attack on any person or an individual, we can all revert to saying that 4wd and fisherman have access to the beaches and many other areas of parks and reserves, but the common fact is they all pay fees be it by registration and or licences.

That's are main gripe Grizzly, we do pay rec. rego. & permits for the 'privilege' of riding at Stockton.

In response to ozquad44, I totally agree. I'm a very infrequent rider at Stockton (maybe 3 times a year), but it is one of the best thrills (apart from Mrs bigjon) I can have. I always look forward and plan months in advance for my Stockton trip. WE CAN'T LOSE THIS PLACE!!!!!!
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