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ATV RYDR
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on my raptor 660 one of the chain tensioner bolts has snapped of and i carnt get it out.plus my axle lock nuts seem to be seized.
ne help would be appreciated
thx james
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I just know thats gunna be a s#*t fight.  In an awkward spot,seek prof. help.  Start spraying on 'WD40" now.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| have you tried ez outs for the bolts? |
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ATV RYDR
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ive tried wd40(maybe should try using a whole can hehehehe)
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ATV RYDR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: |
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excuse my french but what the f#@k are ez outs? 
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| ATV RYDER wrote: | | excuse my french but what the f#@k are ez outs? |
Oh dear... seek urgent profesional advice.
Ezey outs : They screw in to a broken bolt (after drilling a hole in it) and as you screw or tap into it, the broken stud screws it self out, well thats the therory any way, and dont get a cheap nasty set.
And on your stuck lock nuts, use plenty of penatrine and lots of leverage.
Good luck...
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don't worry about it u are getting a new swing arm and axle anyway
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| yogie wrote: | | ATV RYDER wrote: | | excuse my french but what the f#@k are ez outs? |
Oh dear... seek urgent profesional advice.
Ezey outs : They screw in to a broken bolt (after drilling a hole in it) and as you screw or tap into it, the broken stud screws it self out, well thats the therory any way, and dont get a cheap nasty set.
And on your stuck lock nuts, use plenty of penatrine and lots of leverage.
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They are reverse thread so as you screw them into the broken bolt (once you have drilled a pilot hole) they unscrew the bolt. They work wonders. |
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ATV RYDR
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hehehe this is begginning to be a headache looks like new axle and swingarm going straight on 
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ATV RYDR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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now that i know what ezyouts r would the ezyouts work if the snapped chain tensiner bolt is seized(heard from a good source(my brother brad) they r no good for seized bolts)
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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They tend to break when you are trying to use them on seized bolts.
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| SIKMIC wrote: | | They tend to break when you are trying to use them on seized bolts. |
That is what I was going to say ... they break on seized bolts. Probibally best to get it machined out, on a drill press and then re-threaded ...
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ATV RYDR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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f@#k it ill save my self the headache and get a new axle and swinarm
thx for ur help guys it was much appreciated 
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I like your style ...thats what id do .....
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You could try applying some heat (ie with oxy or map gas torch to overcome the seizure) prior to using an easy out, you'll have to touch up the paint though and watch you don't melt any seals or hoses... and watch the fuel.
Even if you get a new axle and swingarm, won't you still need to free the seized axle nut so you can use the sprocket and disc brake carrier??
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| HoleshotQR#24 wrote: | | You could try applying some heat (ie with oxy or map gas torch to overcome the seizure) prior to using an easy out, you'll have to touch up the paint though and watch you don't melt any seals or hoses... and watch the fuel... |
If you gonna use heat ... take as much off as you can first, then work on the problems away from the quad ...
You will be supprised how quick the heat can melt the plastics and hoses ... dont even talk about the fuel!!! 
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ATV RYDR
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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to take of the old swingarm and axle im taking of in one peice that way i dnt get a headache all i get is a f@#ked up swingarma and axle in one peiece on my garage floor
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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when using easyouts on seized bolts only use square drive easyouts a bit dearer but worth it also spray with crc xlr8 its magic stuff crc is useless on seized bolts
good luck they are a bast****d to get out been there done that |
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Ozzy84
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| why not just drill and tap the hole again?? cant remember but im pretty sure you can access both sides of the bolt... bit of CRC and drill from the side that snapped, with any luck it'll slip out, take your time though otherwise you will heat the bolt itself then it a prick... |
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bigjon
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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If you try the easy out (aka extractors) don't break it. There made out of hardened steel.
They do work though, but not brilliant on seized bolts.
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before you use the ez outs try tapping the broken bolt a few hundred times while it is doused in crc (or similar).
The idea is to jar the thread loose first.
If the broken bolt unsiezes and bounces you will see a rusty or corrosion discolouring in the crc.
now the bolt is loose... the ez outs will work.
drill the hole straight as sometimes when the drill bit breaks through it grabs an turns the broken bolt and can snap the drill bit if you have drilled on an angle.
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ATV RYDR
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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i got a new axle on the way from the states im gonna melt the old axle lock nut to get out the old axle then ill drill out the seized chain tensioner bolt then re tap it(hopefully it works)
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