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What do you guys think about toe in or toe out and negative camber for better handling.

[Dino]

about 5 deg toe OUT.....
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Hi Dino

I asked the question cause I read an article that suggested you run NO toe in or out but PLENTY of negative camber and this would give the ideal handling configuration for a quad.

[Dino]

A lot of drifters use the settings you just described.
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I have come across another article which says 2wd should have toe in and 4wd should have toe out.

Mine is a 2wd. This is getting confusing.

[Dino]

It's not rocket science, but it's magic when you find a wizard who can set the vehicle up to suit your needs.
The short version is that if you are just riding trails, the 5mm toe out will be quite adequate.
If you are racing, then the set up will need to suit your riding style and the type of competing you want to do. e.g. flat track,MX, endoru, speedway, etc.

And, a quad is not a car, not a 4wd, it's a quad, which means that your weight transfer is needed to make it function as a dynamically ridden vehicle like a motor bike.
Which means the rider is a big part of the handling, and an even bigger part of the road holding.

So maybe, if your going to compete, you perhaps join a local club and you're very likely to learn, and get shown heaps.
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[donk]

trial and error really. see what YOU like. start with 5-10mm toe (measure between the rims not the tyres) in then try it straight, but make sure all ball joints and tie rod end are spot on. i wasted a lot of time mucking about trying different stuff to finially find out i had one dud ball joint because they dont last long after the rubber gets torn. now the balls are all tight i noticed my tie rods are loose so thats what ill do tomorrow cheers
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[codered]

I am hoping someone can explain or correct my understanding on this.

My old 350 ran 25 mm toe in, as per factory spec, and always understeered. You need to use a lot of thumb to get it to slide (it was a 350 after all)

My new bike, a raptor 700, had way more oversteer when i bought it. The slightest twitch on the handle bars and the arse would come sliding round, even without touching the throttle. The toe was around 8 mm out.

I've since adjusted it to 5 mm toe in to try and make the bike more stable. Is this the correct thing to do or is my thinking totally screwed up?

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I know what your saying. I spoken to the dealer that sold me the quad and he suggested no toe in or out, but a little bit of toe in would be ok.(Make up your mind).

You can read this forum and get various opinions. Read mags and get told 2wd should be set one way and 4wd another. I would have thought there would be enough knowledge out there to say this is how it should be set up.

Mind feels like it wants to understeer and gives the feel of tipping over. I've adjusting my riding position but still haven't got it right. My last quad was a smaller sports type quad where as this one is bigger (To me) farm type.

I'm not riding this thing at break neck speed. Just cruising along tracks taking in the view. But I'd like to go around cornors comfortably.

I've now adjusted the alignment to neutral and next weekend we're going away and we should do at least couple hundred kms so let's see how it goes.