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[JimmyO]

I've seen lately a few people running skinny rear tyres at different races. What are the benefits of doing this and does it cause any problems?

[Predatory]

Skiny tires are usually 22/8/10 or 23/7/10 . They are normaly used in Desert style races and because of the height of the tire gives better gearing for higher top speeds and also better ground clearance. The size also gives added benefit from the standard 22/11/9 that it is lighter and for some machines it will require less horsepower to rotate. I use the 22/8/10 Kenda Bearclaw ( 6 Ply ) and it is a really hard wearing tire and extremely puncture resistant. It is readily available in Australia and is very cheap compared to razr 2 22/11/9 or even Parker DT or ITP Gncc of similar size.
The Bombardier race team in South Africa starting using them on the DS 650's in the National offroad races. They gave extremely stable ride at high speed especially where there were two tracks created by a normal vehicle with a raised hump of grass in the middle. The skinny tires fitted perfectly into the tracks so the back end of the quad stayed planted instead of kicking from side to side.
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[cowchaser]

They are gay!!!
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[TBR 927]

cowchaser wrote:

They are gay!!!

hahaha they do look gay

all i see they tip rather than slide

come on ditchy didnt you have a few flats with them at the dash couple of years ago

[dangerman4]

how do they compare in a straight line drag race for traction compared to some razr 2's 22/11/9?

[Predatory]

You are right Dale, but they were not the Kenda's, they were the BKT. Since I put the Kenda's on I have not had any issues.
I had them on my DS as well as the outlaw and I can slide the back end just as easily on both quads, so I dont know where you get that Idea from...?
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[Roycroft]

Im not a fan or cannot see the benifits but i have never tried them.
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[dangerman4]

Predatory wrote:

I had them on my DS as well as the outlaw and I can slide the back end just as easily on both quads, so I dont know where you get that Idea from...?

dosent this just confirm there the same on both quads?
being either both "profanity removed" or both good?
i want to know how the traction compares to a set of proper rears?

[bullet]

Old Vicus VanDeventer (South Africa) rocked up to 2008 Safari with skinny rears, and since then a lot of people have coppied.
I asked Vicus half way through the event "why the skinny rear tyres".
He said "I run them and sometimes and they are good. But they are not working well for me in Australia. Your conditions are too sandy. I wish I could swap them now, but I can't, I only have limited spares and I could not bring more tyres with me."
He thought they were a mistake, but there are good and bad points.

I think 9 inch wide rears might be the best compromise, but they are hard to find.
The ones Smitty runs on the back look like the best width I have seen.
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[shan660]

ive ridden with pred and i was amazed how good the the skinny tyres are, it does take a bit to get used to , especially when a quad normally has skinny fronts and wide rears. but i can definatley say they work just as well , if not better when it comes to trails. dont knock em until you try them, , but they may only work good on certain bikes, but as far as preds bikes they work awesome,
as far as take off it has no problems with traction. hope this helps.

[TBR 927]

vicus also had a lacky band wraped round his throttle & just turn the big 700 off & on to slow down or speed up dont think tyres were his biggest issue

hey skip

Its Brett ditchy dale s tbr926

[dangerman4]

any sand drag tyres or similar are allways bigger and wider the better for traction.

i cant believe a front tyre on the rear can possibly grip effectively.

maybe in hard terain where grip isnt a issue,
but on soft sandy country its a ludicrus idea.

[hienuf]

cowchaser wrote:

They are gay!!!

Tell us what you really think.
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[X-Factor 1]

We run 27x12 x 9 mudzillas allround on our canam renegades and they cause no problems with loss of traction !!!!!!!!.
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[JimmyO]

is that in 4wd mode though?

[X-Factor 1]

no normally we run in 2wd and on harder surfaces it allows an easier slide to bring the heavier bikes around tight corners we trialled at kamfari 2 years ago and works like a charm also reduces stress on drive train unless you have fracture in tailshaft (Tintanara) Lol
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[jumbo danny]

Roycroft wrote:

Im not a fan or cannot see the benifits but i have never tried them.

ha ha your been behind them
remember me i beat you at thump pump mr roycroft and that was on an old KTM with a fat ass old bloke oyeah and the tyre where preatorys old kendas that had done a lot of work at least 2 thump pumps 2 other trail rides , with me on them
mate ive just bought some new rubber for FINKE love them 10" tall catch me if you can in a straight line up to 400 meters
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[Roycroft]

jumbo danny wrote:

Roycroft wrote: Im not a fan or cannot see the benifits but i have never tried them. ha ha your been behind them remember me i beat you at thump pump mr roycroft and that was on an old KTM with a fat ass old bloke oyeah and the tyre where preatorys old kendas that had done a lot of work at least 2 thump pumps 2 other trail rides , with me on them mate ive just bought some new rubber for FINKE love them 10" tall catch me if you can in a straight line up to 400 meters

till we meet again Jumbo danny
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[hustleratv.com.au]

Roycroft wrote:

jumbo danny wrote: Roycroft wrote: Im not a fan or cannot see the benifits but i have never tried them. ha ha your been behind them remember me i beat you at thump pump mr roycroft and that was on an old KTM with a fat ass old bloke oyeah and the tyre where preatorys old kendas that had done a lot of work at least 2 thump pumps 2 other trail rides , with me on them mate ive just bought some new rubber for FINKE love them 10" tall catch me if you can in a straight line up to 400 meters till we meet again Jumbo danny

That would be at finke i guess.
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[cowchaser]

I have tried them and I still think they are gay!!
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[Huskygoat]

cowchaser wrote:

I have tried them and I still think they are gay!!

He who rode for the gay team....lol

By the way Vicus was 5 hours in front ....and out rode all of u legends on skinnys...lol
Husky
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[tbr926]

gay

yakkie tryed to get me to run them but no chance

they need to be double bead locked if you get a flat with the omf rims

and didnt you predatory finish day 1 of the dash in 08 with 2 rear flats

[chief94]

I have used both but perfer the 22x8x10 i find them much easier to ride with less effort is needed to ride with them and they wear very well i have had up to 1900 klms out of them and still competitve with them at that mileage , I find they hook very well in deep sand and on hard pack.
By the way i think people that ride irs quads are GAY

[Huskygoat]

chief94 wrote:

I have used both but perfer the 22x8x10 i find them much easier to ride with less effort is needed to ride with them and they wear very well i have had up to 1900 klms out of them and still competitve with them at that mileage , I find they hook very well in deep sand and on hard pack. By the way i think people that ride irs quads are GAY

lol. pricelesss
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[Brad]

I have had both on my IRS over the last few years ( not at the same time )
and i can 100% confirm there in no difference in , traction , high speed stability , clearance , suspension , puncture resistance . When you bike is parked in the shed , as is mine .


But i prefer the 22/8x10 kenda , used them at Condo (2010)on a ds450 , had no problems with traction , was more confident both going into rough stuff ( clearance ) and on the high speed sections (stability) . I had only had about 2 hrs on the bike prior , coming from my irs so for me it was about confidence over actual performance .