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Q; Are fox shocks able to be adjusted to suite 2 different riders [weight] For example me at 100kg and then my wife at 60 kg, unlike other shocks they have the spring set-up for a particular weight ?
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[Dickie]

Hey Hook,

I am pretty sure you can, the different air pressure you put in them makes them suitable for different rider weights. So they are easily able to suit more than one rider weight. I will let you know more when mine arrive.

There will be plenty of people who will be able to tell you exactly though.

Josh

[mitch41]

I would say that you can do that, but yeah its probably good to ask someone like Beechey about that

[Roycroft]

rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved

as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight

for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed.

this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks.
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[Todd 127]

I also race flattack with them , drop the pressure in the main chamber to lower the quad, then pump up for mx. It's just too easy. Still need to put a lowering link in rear, but saved 1hrs labour on front end.

[Roycroft]

And pump your evol chambers up to 250 psi or above and you can nearly get away without using a swaybar for flat track
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[just doin it]

Thanks guys, cleared that up for us.
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Roycroft wrote:

rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed. this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks.

Not true Mick.

PEP ZPS is the only ATV shock you can adjust 10 kg up or down and run the same valving and change ride heights without affecting shock action. On air shock If you let air out it lowers the shock and accentuates body roll .If you pump them up they raise and are firm changing ride height and giving a firm ride never getting through the whole working of the shock because air cant be fully compressed and it firms as you get closer to the bottom of travel . The PEP is consistent through it's action and you can adjust the begining,middle and last part of stroke through cross overs.
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[PeteW]

ATV NRG wrote:

Roycroft wrote: rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed. this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks. Not true Mick. PEP ZPS is the only ATV shock you can adjust 10 kg up or down and run the same valving and change ride heights without affecting shock action. On air shock If you let air out it lowers the shock and accentuates body roll .If you pump them up they raise and are firm changing ride height and giving a firm ride never getting through the whole working of the shock because air cant be fully compressed and it firms as you get closer to the bottom of travel . The PEP is consistent through it's action and you can adjust the begining,middle and last part of stroke through cross overs.

I think the weight difference in question was 40kg Lenny.....
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[Roycroft]

ATV NRG wrote:

Roycroft wrote: rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed. this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks. Not true Mick. PEP ZPS is the only ATV shock you can adjust 10 kg up or down and run the same valving and change ride heights without affecting shock action. On air shock If you let air out it lowers the shock and accentuates body roll .If you pump them up they raise and are firm changing ride height and giving a firm ride never getting through the whole working of the shock because air cant be fully compressed and it firms as you get closer to the bottom of travel . The PEP is consistent through it's action and you can adjust the begining,middle and last part of stroke through cross overs.

sorry len your wroung, you have been misinformed. Fox have 2 seperate air chambers the evol chamber for body roll. and the main chamber is for ride height. but you wouldn't know this because you have never adjusted a set of fox before or never ridden any. and you sell PEP

this is a question about fox so please don't hijack the post.
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PeteW wrote:

ATV NRG wrote: Roycroft wrote: rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed. this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks. Not true Mick. PEP ZPS is the only ATV shock you can adjust 10 kg up or down and run the same valving and change ride heights without affecting shock action. On air shock If you let air out it lowers the shock and accentuates body roll .If you pump them up they raise and are firm changing ride height and giving a firm ride never getting through the whole working of the shock because air cant be fully compressed and it firms as you get closer to the bottom of travel . The PEP is consistent through it's action and you can adjust the begining,middle and last part of stroke through cross overs. I think the weight difference in question was 40kg Lenny.....

Correct Pete , PEP wont cover that much,I was wrong anyway PEP can be adjusted up or down 10 Lb (Not KG) being a little over 20 KG before you need to re-spring or re-valve.
I advised exactly that from the phone Call I got tonight.
All good
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Roycroft wrote:

ATV NRG wrote: Roycroft wrote: rear is the same as any other shock which would need to be resprung or valved as for the fronts, you are correct and it all comes down to air pressures to determine, ride height and weight for example, i have my evol chamber on my bike set at 160PSI and i am 80kg, if a 100kg rider rides my bike then i might put in 170-180 and adjust the clickers for compression if needed. this is a great benifit of fox floats over other shocks. Not true Mick. PEP ZPS is the only ATV shock you can adjust 10 kg up or down and run the same valving and change ride heights without affecting shock action. On air shock If you let air out it lowers the shock and accentuates body roll .If you pump them up they raise and are firm changing ride height and giving a firm ride never getting through the whole working of the shock because air cant be fully compressed and it firms as you get closer to the bottom of travel . The PEP is consistent through it's action and you can adjust the begining,middle and last part of stroke through cross overs. sorry len your wroung, you have been misinformed. Fox have 2 seperate air chambers the evol chamber for body roll. and the main chamber is for ride height. but you wouldn't know this because you have never adjusted a set of fox before or never ridden any. and you sell PEP this is a question about fox so please don't hijack the post.

Mick ,

Your business is making Hamburgers ...Mine is suspension.
The question asked was can he have 40 KG difference .
The answer is No on all accounts .
No Hijack bum clown just truth.
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[Todd 127]

just doin it wrote:

Thanks guys, cleared that up for us.

I believe that was the end of the thread Lenny.

[Roycroft]

take a look at Fox Shox's website at the link below and tell me exactly what you mean by it cannot be adjusted to suit any rider weight.

any body that knows anything about there competitors suspension should know this. even your mate wayne from PEP should know this.

there exact words are?

http://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/race/FLOAT_X_EVOL

now if this differs to what you believe then Fox are misinforming there customers and i suggest you contact them to discuss this is common knowledge on all fox air shocks that air allows the user to adjust the shocks to suit there rider weight.

even on my Mountain bikes i have this ability with my Fox, AXIS shocks have the same application in there air shock.

sorry Len

Checkmate Fool.
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Roycroft wrote:

take a look at Fox Shox's website at the link below and tell me exactly what you mean by it cannot be adjusted to suit any rider weight any body that knows anything about there competitors suspension should know this. even your mate wayne from PEP should know this You Have a Rear shock to consider too Mick so that blows your theory straight away . But anyway I will give you a come back on your front Whoopy Cushions you choose to promote. Also my mate Wayne who knows very little about hamburgers but a whole lot about suspension and winning combinations in ATV Racing worldwide. Wayne actually contributed to the R&D for Fox. He also tells me they are limited because they are air and air is very unstable as temperature changes so does the ride and ride height. The more you ride the hotter they get, hot air expands and the ride height lifts up, you end up with a firmer ride with a Quad that is too high at the front and then pushes in corners. You pump the Evol chambers and that only works in the last part of the stroke and they inherently dive in corners compared to a normally sprung shock (Ask the owners who choose to be honest) That is why the top Yanks who run Fox Run 20nm Springs inside them to help limit the the dive. You always see Fox Racers messing with the shocks, pumping pumping pumping, they are shocking belhttp://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/race/FLOAT_X_EVOL This is a sales pitch not an engineering sheet . now if this differs to what you believe then Fox are misinforming there customers and i suggest you contact them to discuss this is common knowledge on all fox air shocks that air allows the user to adjust the shocks to suit there rider weight. The only misinformation is what you are telling people on this forum Mick ,so I hope your professional indemnity insurance is paid up to at least 20M even on my Mountain bikes i have this ability with my Fox, AXIS shocks have the same application in there air shock. These are ATV Race bikes Mick so who gives a Rats about Mountain Bikes ,you are delirious and on the wrong forum. sorry Len Don't be sorry Mick I love it when people bring a knife to a gun fight. The best Racer in Australia was given Fox Shocks for nothing to try.After many hours He couldn't get them to work. When his paid for PEP shocks came he handed the Fox back because he said they know comparison to PEP and is the current National Champion The European Champion won on PEP The fastest Privateer in the world is on PEP. PEP will not pay racers to run their shocks The USA Fox racers get paid a contingency fee to the tune of $250 K to run Fox ,then they modify them to get them competitive. Checkmate Fool.

[b]Who is the fool
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Last edited by ATV PRO on Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:13 pm; edited 2 times in total

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Todd 127 wrote:

just doin it wrote: Thanks guys, cleared that up for us. I believe that was the end of the thread Lenny.

Look out boys the thread police is in town .
Sorry maybe it's just another sponsored racer from Fox city
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[Ozpilot]

"... I was wrong anyway PEP can be adjusted up or down 10 Lb (Not KG) being a little over 20 KG ..."

hehe

[JONO]

Ozpilot wrote:

"... I was wrong anyway PEP can be adjusted up or down 10 Lb (Not KG) being a little over 20 KG ..." hehe

hahaha yeah very intelligent remark, nobody cares for your constant banter about why peps are the best len, move on. Must know you're losing the argument if you have to resort to personal attacks on micks choice of occupation.

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JONO wrote:

Ozpilot wrote: "... I was wrong anyway PEP can be adjusted up or down 10 Lb (Not KG) being a little over 20 KG ..." hehe hahaha yeah very intelligent remark, nobody cares for your constant banter about why peps are the best len, move on. Must know you're losing the argument if you have to resort to personal attacks on micks choice of occupation.

Read this and weep Jono

take a look at Fox Shox's website at the link below and tell me exactly what you mean by it cannot be adjusted to suit any rider weight
any body that knows anything about there competitors suspension should know this. even your mate wayne from PEP should know this

You Have a Rear shock to consider too Mick so that blows your theory straight away .
But anyway I will give you a come back on your front Whoopy Cushions you choose to promote.
Also my mate Wayne who knows very little about hamburgers but a whole lot about suspension and winning combinations in ATV Racing worldwide.
Wayne actually contributed to the R&D for Fox. He also tells me they are limited because they are air and air is very unstable as temperature changes so does the ride and ride height.
The more you ride the hotter they get, hot air expands and the ride height lifts up, you end up with a firmer ride with a Quad that is too high at the front and then pushes in corners. You pump the Evol chambers and that only works in the last part of the stroke and they inherently dive in corners compared to a normally sprung shock (Ask the owners who choose to be honest) That is why the top Yanks who run Fox Run 20nm Springs inside them to help limit the the dive. You always see Fox Racers messing with the shocks, pumping pumping pumping, they are shocking

belhttp://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/race/FLOAT_X_EVOL

This is a sales pitch not an engineering sheet .

now if this differs to what you believe then Fox are misinforming there customers and i suggest you contact them to discuss this is common knowledge on all fox air shocks that air allows the user to adjust the shocks to suit there rider weight.
The only misinformation is what you are telling people on this forum Mick ,so I hope your professional indemnity insurance is paid up to at least 20M

even on my Mountain bikes i have this ability with my Fox, AXIS shocks have the same application in there air shock.
These are ATV Race bikes Mick so who gives a Rats about Mountain Bikes ,you are delirious and on the wrong forum.

sorry Len

Don't be sorry Mick I love it when people bring a knife to a gun fight.

The best Racer in Australia was given Fox Shocks for nothing to try.After many hours He couldn't get them to work.
When his paid for PEP shocks came he handed the Fox back because he said they know comparison to PEP and is the current National Champion

The European Champion won on PEP

The fastest Privateer in the world is on PEP.

PEP will not pay racers to run their shocks

The USA Fox racers get paid a contingency fee to the tune of $250 K to run Fox ,then they modify them to get them competitive.



Checkmate Fool.


Who is the fool

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[JONO]

ATV NRG wrote:

JONO wrote: Ozpilot wrote: "... I was wrong anyway PEP can be adjusted up or down 10 Lb (Not KG) being a little over 20 KG ..." hehe hahaha yeah very intelligent remark, nobody cares for your constant banter about why peps are the best len, move on. Must know you're losing the argument if you have to resort to personal attacks on micks choice of occupation. I only answer intelligent comebacks so I will wait for you to come up with one.

It wasn't a comeback, it was a statement.
You've responded to me having a crack at you before Len, must be starting to realize you're fighting a losing battle in this argument you've created and have nothing left to say.

[Roycroft]

True atv nrg colours. Good luck len, i got the answers from you wanted all made up i see.
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[JONO]

Oh, now you've decided to come up with a comeback you've thought of something to say.
I was laughing at your post because it made it seem like you were saying 10lbs was the equivalent of 20kg....
I really don't give a sh1t about the rest of the argument and which shocks you think are more adjustable to suit different rider weights.

[t&l performance]

howde u go from big rock toyota to selln peps must be more people that listen to u about the shocks than the toyotas so that would make one person listening to you now then