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Stevo 4fiddy Racer

Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 229 Location: In the man cave  |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: Steering dampner |
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Thinking of putting a steering dampner on my banshee.
Don't want something over the top , just want something to help
stop the bars getting torn out of my hands.
Any suggestions as what to go for ? _________________ The older I get the faster I was !! |
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Noy Q75 Roostin Away

Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 943 Location: Perth W.A.  |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just go a PEP . i think luke beachy has them for around $350 ? _________________ Sponsors ,Cullys Yamaha,Pirtek Malaga
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muzzgit Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 354
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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You forget how much difference it makes until you ride a quad that doesn't have one.
Yeah, go the PEP. _________________ Cheers,
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Roycroft The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 1512 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: dampner |
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you will notice a massive difference between a pushrod style one, like the pep and a proper one like the elka, msc or precision.
i wouldn't ride a bike without a dampner ever. _________________ 2012 sponsors, Working on it. |
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Dingo555 Roostin Away

Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 778 Location: Closer to the Qld coast  |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: Re: dampner |
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| Roycroft wrote: | you will notice a massive difference between a pushrod style one, like the pep and a proper one like the elka, msc or precision.
i wouldn't ride a bike without a dampner ever. |
I'm sure Uncle Lenny could kit up a PEP dampner that would sh!t all over any other brand.  _________________ 10 LTR 555 Dingo
06 LTR 94 Kay
Thanks for all the support and good advice
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No skills or good habits, just point it and stab it..!! |
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bullet The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Middleton SA  |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe even go so far as to say "it's the best one on the planet"
I run a Precision, and while not cheap, they are good and 100% reliable.
A good steering damper takes out a lot of the negatives and is good at disguising things like poor steering geometry.
The best idea is to get the geometry as good as possible first.
Depending on what you are riding, i'd get a set of +2+1 arms and a set of 4+1 rims first.
Then you won't need a steering damper so much  _________________ Can-Am X Team
Bullet #Y12. MrsB #Y18. |
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Stevo 4fiddy Racer

Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 229 Location: In the man cave  |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea Bullet , but at this stage a dampner is a cheaper option _________________ The older I get the faster I was !! |
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bullet The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Middleton SA  |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah mate, it can be tough just trying to sort out which extra to work towards first.
It's easy to spend a lot of money trying to make a Banshee something that it isn't too. Keep talking to everyone to shape up where you want to be.
People like Adam from QuadSquad is always good knowledge and advice. _________________ Can-Am X Team
Bullet #Y12. MrsB #Y18. |
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jumbo danny Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 428 Location: para hills south australia  |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: ring the hustler |
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| Dom's got some affordable/semi rebuildable/adjustable ones that's a whole mouth full cheers |
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: dampner |
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| Roycroft wrote: | you will notice a massive difference between a pushrod style one, like the pep and a proper one like the elka, msc or precision.
i wouldn't ride a bike without a dampner ever. |
Haha Proper one !
Apart from Quads and Bikes everything else runs a rod style damper .
Rally cars,Race cars,road racers ...
It is resistance for the steering when a force hits and they both work.
I have run a PEP Rod style of damper for the past two years with team KTM and just won a National with one it never failed or faded.
PEP dyno test them for the correct resistance.
They are super reliable.
Without being negative, the rotary have fallen to bits, the arms bend the screws fall out ...I believe they are over rated .
The best thing we sell them for under $300. _________________ Cheers
Len
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Hoodlum 50cc nipper

Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Posts: 19
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| i run with a pep and its great |
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Stevo 4fiddy Racer

Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 229 Location: In the man cave  |
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: Re: ring the hustler |
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| jumbo danny wrote: | | Dom's got some affordable/semi rebuildable/adjustable ones that's a whole mouth full cheers |
Cheers Danny _________________ The older I get the faster I was !! |
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stink989 Blaster class
Joined: 21 Apr 2008 Posts: 130 Location: Wellington, NSW  |
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:23 am Post subject: |
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how do you dyno test a damper?
throw rocks in front of the dyno?  _________________ 2006 Banshee
Ridden not pampered |
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hienuf Blaster class

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 148 Location: Central Coast. NSW  |
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| stink989 wrote: | how do you dyno test a damper?
throw rocks in front of the dyno?  |
GOLD!  _________________ KFX 700
Jardine nerfs
Barkbusters
Dalton blue spring
Yoshirmira twins
6 degree key
Air box mod
"POWER DEMANDS RESPECT" |
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Roycroft The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 1512 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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typical lenny reply, going for the sell.
the only push rod style i would consier would be PEP, all others i wouldn't go near.
hey len this is for ATV's application anyway.
never has one fallen apart in my hands, useually only because they have not been installed properly or taken a big hit. i bet you the PEP one would bend easier if it took a hit, compared to an arm bending on a rotoary type one.
len only crawls out of his hole to make a sale. _________________ 2012 sponsors, Working on it. |
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Roycroft wrote: | typical lenny reply, going for the sell.
the only push rod style i would consier would be PEP, all others i wouldn't go near.
hey len this is for ATV's application anyway.
never has one fallen apart in my hands, useually only because they have not been installed properly or taken a big hit. i bet you the PEP one would bend easier if it took a hit, compared to an arm bending on a rotoary type one.
len only crawls out of his hole to make a sale. |
Mick .
You wouldn't know what falls apart and you wouldn't tell if you are sponsored by them.
You only plug the stuff you get for free or are sponsored on .
Mick only crawls out of his hole to speak rubbish . _________________ Cheers
Len
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feralkid The Day Starts With OZATV !
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 1567 Location: North Western Victoria  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Lets not turn this into a sh1t fight boys. Keep it as a thread on genuine advice about steering damper.
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"Nothing worth having is easy to get" |
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| feralkid wrote: | Lets not turn this into a sh1t fight boys. Keep it as a thread on genuine advice about steering damper.
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ah grasshopper, so young yet so wise! _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| stink989 wrote: | how do you dyno test a damper?
throw rocks in front of the dyno?  |
They Dyno test shocks and Dampers to get the correct rates
PEP do anyway  _________________ Cheers
Len
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: dampner |
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| Dingo555 wrote: | | Roycroft wrote: | you will notice a massive difference between a pushrod style one, like the pep and a proper one like the elka, msc or precision.
i wouldn't ride a bike without a dampner ever. |
I'm sure Uncle Lenny could kit up a PEP dampner that would sh!t all over any other brand.  |
Dingo Dingo Dingo ,your Gold ! _________________ Cheers
Len
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Roycroft The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 1512 Location: Newcastle  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: Sounds |
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Good comeback lenny. Spot on. _________________ 2012 sponsors, Working on it. |
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Noy Q75 wrote: | | Just go a PEP . i think luke beachy has them for around $350 ? |
Mike at quad parts is doing them for $295 at the moment  _________________ Cheers
Len
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Noy Q75 Roostin Away

Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 943 Location: Perth W.A.  |
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ATV NRG wrote: | | Noy Q75 wrote: | | Just go a PEP . i think luke beachy has them for around $350 ? |
Mike at quad parts is doing them for $295 at the moment  |
I would pay the extra and go over east . hahahaha _________________ Sponsors ,Cullys Yamaha,Pirtek Malaga
2x YFZ 450r "09" 2x 90 Raptor "09"2x 125Raptors "12"
N# 1 Aus Quad Nats Vets 2010
N# 1 at BSA-HD for 09,10,11
N# 2 W.A. State Clubman A 2010
N# 3 W.A. State Vets 2011
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CHEV0507 90cc 2 stroke / 110 4 stroke

Joined: 18 Jan 2011 Posts: 71 Location: Perth  |
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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id pay less and buy from the USA!
if you want knoweledge for the banshee they are 10 years ahead of us
even thou there counntry sux lol |
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ATV PRO Roostin Away

Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 888 Location: Central Coast, NSW  |
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Noy Q75 wrote: | | ATV NRG wrote: | | Noy Q75 wrote: | | Just go a PEP . i think luke beachy has them for around $350 ? |
Mike at quad parts is doing them for $295 at the moment  |
I would pay the extra and go over east . hahahaha |
Of course you would you dont like them  _________________ Cheers
Len
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