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M.F.I.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Banshee box broken Reply with quote Back to top

Hi fellow ATV'ers
I have this Banshee which appears to have broken something in first gear or the clutch.

problem is when in 1st gear you cant roll more than a few feet before something locks up SOLID!!! Mad

Cant find neutral either- running engine or not.

Bike seems to ride fine in all other gears.

???????????????????????????????

I am about to take the engine out to strip the box and find out whats going on, but first I thought it might be worth hearing if anyone out there has had this happen.

Let me know if you know..... or if anyone in S.E. Queensland is keen for a look let me know as from what I read in the book if I do take the engine out I need some special tools to strip it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: box Reply with quote Back to top

its only a 2 stroke mate , pull it out ,wont harm it
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Pretty much the plan but you know the whole can of worms story hey!! Just having a last think before i go into "well thats what it costs territory'

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Could be a few different things
like
1st gear selector ...have you landed from a jump with your foot on the gear lever ? (bent)
could be first or 5th gear cog s them self or even your selector itself
I have spares if you need some .
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Ashnery
Thats interesting, have you worked on these before? If so have you much knowledge on them? Can I find this out without stripping the entire unit? My son was on it when it broke he may have been down shifting back to first without clutch but he assures me he wasnt- this was my first thought as it made sense to me.

Where are you located?

What bits do you actually have?

How much?

PM me if you want.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yes you can take of the clutch side cover and clutch basket and check you shifter drum . and check the throw out arms ,if you still cant get it to shift you mave have bent a shift fork or striped or broken a gear you need to split the motor for that one ,I have forgoton the amount of times I have had banshee motors appart you may have some luck with parts or an rz 350 road bike , If you need I can do it for you cheap but im in newcastle ,I should have all the parts you need ...mabe ,,,get some prices of a shop first let me no mabe i can help you over the phone or on here .....ash
 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the heads up Ash. This is the exact type of information I have been seeking. The Banshee is at my workshop at the moment so as soon as I get chance I will be pulling that side cover off and having a look. If not during the week I will check it out over the weekend.

Your location doesnt phase me- I use transoprt companies for freight accross Australia everyday. Even if I couldnt make it there is always a way to get the stuff there.

Will keep ya's posted.

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Darren
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

No worries happy to help.
I have built many a motor ,Last time I replaced a complete gearbox I dindnty even remove the cylinders ....
try bansheehq.com they have step by step pics on what you need to do and a banshee manul you can down load ..you can contact me if you need some assistance or you want me to do it for you.
But you will need some tools........ but its really quite simple...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey darren ash is like "THE BANSEE MAN"

ash- can you fix my banshee???
it runs like crap




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

whats it doing wrong,you guys going for a ride next week ?
could have a look at it then .
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

just needs the carbs tuned, has absolutely no bottom end what so ever my dads new banshee has more acceleration Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

but i still beat him Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I would just replace the carbs with a set i have and see if it fixes the prob ,if it does we open yours up and see whats going on .If it does not fix your prob we start looking else where ...
what are your mods ?
what is your pilot jet ?
what is your main jet ?
what is your filter std ?
wheres your needle at and number?
are your reeds completly shuting?
do you have an air leak ?
thats why we swap carbs first its the quickest way .
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mods:fmf fatty chambers
pilot: standard
main: 220
standard filter
needle clip is in the centre notch



i will look at reeds and check for leaks later



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You need a set of 27.5 pilots and you should be around 270-310 main
yiou really need a good filter
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hey ash can you tune the tors setup very well???

mine needs a good tune




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The tors set up is nothing but painful
at the end of the day all it does is takes play out of the cable adjusts the idle via tightning the cable and sends a of siginial to the ecu when slides are down
The actual carbs themselves dont have any idle adjustment without the tors
In my opion get a tors elimnater kit it will be the best money you spend and adjust the idle at the new cap .
if you put those jets in i told you you will most definatly fix your troubles..ash
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: Banshee box broken Reply with quote Back to top

hey ash,do you know where i can get a tors eliminator kit from? i need 1 for the blaster just for a standard 26mm carb.......cheers
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Theres a couple of guys on here with shops that sell them jmc is local then you have hardiman at the central coast I can get you a price but I just get them sent to my door of a builder in the usa I deal with let me no.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: Banshee box broken Reply with quote Back to top

i've already tried jmc he does'nt have any and i've been waiting for weeks from a reply from hardiman i think i will just have to ring him...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I can get you one in a week it will cost you $140
if you want to wait 5 weeks it will cost you around $85
this is from the usa
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BJM = Banshee Jedi Master Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lol...............lol
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: Banshee box broken Reply with quote Back to top

hey ash,where would u get it from and do know how much it would cost for 1 from hardiman??
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I get it of a builder in the states and hardiman no idea how much they are
I was only trying to help...
 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Banshee box broken Reply with quote Back to top

k thanks if i can't get 1 from hardiman i will get u to get me one...thanks
 
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