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TUFF AS
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 Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: best way to advance timing on a banshee |
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hello people just looking for advice to advance my timing on my banshee!should i
get a 3 degree key?
get a prodesign adjustable timing plate?
or get a adjustale curve dynatek ignition put in?
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4stroker
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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well you listed them from cheapest to dearest!
apparently the timing keys break after loads of abuse, so if your after just a static advance do the timing plate, and dont go anymore than +4
programmable ignitions are good but you should spend your money on other things first such as carbs port job etc etc...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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ok thanks for the advice it really sounds like you know your banshees!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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no dramas mate i would recommend changing your 21cc domes to 19cc and running bp98 or better (you probably already do anyway)
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Banshee250R
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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you can also re-drill your stock timong plate
ask ash how to do it
he made a post on it somewhere but i cant find it
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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1 remove stator cover
2 remove flywheel will need a pully
3 mark timming plate with a flat line where the two cases meet.
4 remove timming plate
5 looking at the timming plate file the m6 holes anti clockwise 6mm extra
6 reinstall the timming plate with the screws loose turn the timming plate retension the bolts with the marked line below where the cases meet .
every 1mm clockwise of movement is equal to 1 deg of timming 3-4 deg is good I use to run 7-9deg but i had the works.
dont forget to rejet because you will be to lean...ash
This works best if you .
have pipes
biger carbs
vforce 3 reeds
port work
cool head with 21cc or less
98 bp fuel
K&N SOCKET FILTERS
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Banshee250R
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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thanks ash 
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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thanks ash but i think it will be more simple to just get a adjustable timing plate. hey 4stroker like you seen i run 21cc domes if i went to 19cc domes will the bike still be relible? and also i run bp 98 with motul oil
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4stroker
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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yeah lots people have just elongated the holes on their stock timing plate (including me) but when you can get a timing plate for $40 US why bother?
pro design billet ones are alot dearer but the cheaper RM stator cast ones do the exact same thing and it dont need to be flash coz no ones gonna see it!
oh yeah make sure you buy a proper flywheel puller, dont use a legged one, it will bend the flywheel. where ever you buy the plate from will be able to sell you the flywheel puller for like $20. pm me for some places to get this stuff from.
19cc will definitely be reliable on 98 ron, with 19cc domes your static compression ratio will still only be 10.21:1, and your corrected comp ratio 6.07:1, which is fine for pump fuel. in case your wondering this should work out to be 185psi on a compression tester guage.
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