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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: would there be a market?? Reply with quote Back to top

my neighbour and me are thinking of building these racks for quads to fit onto utes. but just thought i would see how much of a market there would be out there.

check out the pic and let me know if you reckon it would be worth while. they would be customised to suit individual needs of course.

they can be galvinised alliminum painted or powdercoated to what ever colour you want i suppose... any other thoughts ?

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My only thought is that these would suit those big type american utes or "pick ups" as they are a lot wider than our aussie utes. And to which there is a lot more of on our roads. I suppose iot wouldnt hurt to make one to suit our utes and give it thourgh testing. This is not a critisism, and I hope its not taken as one, but you'll never know till you give it ago. Keep us informed, on your progress.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They look realy good and well built. I would check with the RTA if you are allowed to have that much over hang though.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

the thought was to make them suit the aussie utes for one quad and if legal with the over hang situation make them for 2 quads. my need for one is as simple as i have a 6" widened raptor and i also tow a camper trailer around the raptor wont fit on the crewman, or any other well back ute for that matter

they would be removable and can be put onto box trailers to increase the useable space there too.
thanks for the feedback
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe make them so the quads go across from the side. That would be easier to unload if you have a trailer on.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They SHOULD be legal up to 2.5 mts, + with extended/mirrors that can see back past the edges.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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They SHOULD be legal up to 2.5 mts, + with extended/mirrors that can see back past the edges.


right again redted. the RTA web site says the maximum width for ALL VEHICLES is 2.5 metres. i knew i needed those rear vision mirrors for a reason..LOL
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

good old pedestrian council mightnt like em much, you could always load sideways to fit 2 quads.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

having the quads sideways is good tho wouldnt it screw with the air flow?
(depending on what speed your doing)
could bend plastics! (maybe)

just my thought!
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i should have the first made within 3 weeks allowing for appathy and outright laziness then i intend playing around with it a little to see what works best.

thanks for all the comments and thoughts i hope to be able to make them for around $800 each as a basic model. they are about US$ 1400 in the states so $800 seems to be a bargain.

But would anyone buy one?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Everything your about to read you alrady know but, I'll say it anyway, and again not any critism here..... Smile


would anyone buy one...?? yeah, they would, But even though $800 is cheap (too cheap in my veiw) you will have to have the unit looking as good as it WILL be strong if you know what I mean. Not forgetting that it will supporting a (on average) $12000 bike. Another thing I would look at doing is if your retailing these at your price, And after you intial protyping and designs Look around for a local engineer, and get him to look over it and make sure all your bracings are in the right spots, wont cost much for this, and will give you and there-fore the buyer some peace of mind and get your finish product looking smick. If you were to go the powdercoating route, can get it coloured matched to suit most GMH, Ford colours... Dont be afraid to let the quad mag borrow one for a test... free advertising RE:plug. The biggest problem you will face will not be making or design ing it but marketing your product will be a constant nightmare (having horrible flashbacks here LOL) But certainly doeable, get onto petew he might be able to give you a few tips, I can give you more info on that if you like further down the track.

One thing I just thought about wil the $800 include a ally ramps ?? if so Still too cheap. I know some might be thinking that I'm trying sound negative here but I'm not, just trying ask any question or thoughts that might have been thought of.

I think there is market here for them especially for the aussie utes, very marketable product in my view. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dont forget those roll bars on the back of alot of utes!
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

rapmat wrote:
REDTED wrote:
They SHOULD be legal up to 2.5 mts, + with extended/mirrors that can see back past the edges.


right again redted. the RTA web site says the maximum width for ALL VEHICLES is 2.5 metres. i knew i needed those rear vision mirrors for a reason..LOL


any wider then the car or towing vehicle must have clearance lights by rta also if you looking to law as same as tralers being wider then the car has to have em a car does not require as headlights and tail ights are the full car width
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

KILLASAKI wrote:
Dont forget those roll bars on the back of alot of utes!

would that be my ute you refer to there killa.. did think of that and it would need removing, pitty it looks so damn good with it on too
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

KILLASAKI wrote:
Dont forget those roll bars on the back of alot of utes!
Theyre not 'roll bars' Surprised Theyre ladder racks Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

damn the holden dealer told me that it was a sports bar and the car would go faster with it on ...damn car sales man
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

rapmat wrote:
damn the holden dealer told me that it was a sports bar and the car would go faster with it on ...damn car sales man


look the're only faster if there red, you should know that anyway... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

making the quads load side ways would suit better as it wouldnt have to be as wide but would use full length of the ute
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

great idea. if you sideways load you could extend it over the tailgate perhaps if you can drive with it down. It would be fantastic for those with dual cab 4x4s like rodeos etc as its difficult even loading one quad in there, near impossible if its widened.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have a 7x4 trailer and I would like to have one to fit inside/on top of the trailer for 2 quads, this will save me selling this trailer and buying a new trailer to suit. keep in mind a new trailer is around $1500 to $2000 with brakes, cages etc. depending what size you need - so for the trailer attachement the price around $500 to $800 sounds OK to me

But how would you get them down to Melbourne?
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: would there be a market?? Reply with quote Back to top

rapmat wrote:
my neighbour and me are thinking of building these racks for quads to fit onto utes. but just thought i would see how much of a market there would be out there.

check out the pic and let me know if you reckon it would be worth while. they would be customised to suit individual needs of course.

they can be galvinised alliminum painted or powdercoated to what ever colour you want i suppose... any other thoughts ?

Matt


They look Great ,if there legal ,go for it !
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

a little more research has been done and yes they are legal with clearance lights ( that would plug into the existing 7 pin plug for the trailer say) the RTA requirement is no vehicle can be more than 2.5 metres wide and the overhang no more than about 3.5metres or 60% of the wheelbase whichever is the lesser. the first will? should be done by the end of this week and will be taken to oran park and other venues around sydney for people to see. it will be built for a holden crewman another will be built for a holden ute ( late model). pics will be posted when complete.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ps the trailer model will proberly come in KIT form and will be a bolt together arrangement with stainless hardware and ny-lock nuts so they dont rattle loose. this kit form will aid in shipping to places outside sydney
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

almost finished the first one... by this weekend i promise. then will be happy for people to have a look at the next oran park practice. i will send pics on request
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