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Some of you have heard of us talking about a GNCC style event with the idea of having Quads one day and Bikes the next. So i ask the Quad riders for some ideas on what they would like or be interested in.
Classes
Length
Time- of year & how many hours
Terrain

The track used for the Easter weekend and the Thunder x track could be used as a part of it, that makes for around 30klm.

Any opinions.
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a class were the quads gota be say 450pounds + and run a cv as bikes like the kfx700 that race in the open class at some events ar no match for a manual lite weight rappy on the straits no worries but how many of them do u get barely any
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The bikes would probably have a winge and a b1tch about not having their ruts and about us messing up tracks
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[NeKeleC]

The style of race could be based on the 2 or 3 hour iron man style race with a class staggered start.
The classes could be the ironman, pony express intermediate, pony express clubman, ironman junior (could be half the length of time), pony express junior, etc.
The first across the line at the three hour mark wins (based on laps completed and position)
The time of year would the time that best suits you guys but around easter or may day would be best (getting cool but not too cold out your way and hopefully been raining so not much dust)
The track would be awesome to be a mix of both tracks (i know i didn't see the easter weekend track but knowing your property the thunder x track and your imagination) as it can be any style of track you like as long as it is natural terrain it should fit the GNCC style.
I used to do a three hour ironman event that was 25kms long and we did 13 laps over three hours but it would depend on the speeds you could achieve (or you would want people to achieve) as to how many laps you would get in.
Oh yea i think the combination of quads one day bikes the next would be awesome as you could possibly look at games on the off day for the other riders.

So Hook where do i send my nomiation money for this event??
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[yogie]

feralkid wrote:

The bikes would probably have a winge and a b1tch about not having their ruts and about us messing up tracks

hey what a great idea
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[JRE]

yogie wrote:

feralkid wrote: The bikes would probably have a winge and a b1tch about not having their ruts and about us messing up tracks why not give the bikeS the same respect and courtasy they show quads at HATTAH....

Because if we dont make an effort no one will, we need to stop this bitchiness as it only makes us look bad.
Sounds like a great plan plus the reality is there are loads more 2 wheeler rides than us and so that would guarantee that the event would pay its way and we get to be part of a great event. I'd drive up from Adelaide rather than do finke.

[just doin it]

Believe it or not this idea came from a pro bike rider who has no problem with quads, comes out here to practice and thinks quads 1st day would be great, in fact 3 two wheelers ,all who have represented Australia are on side to help with this event It always seems the ones that complain are the wanna-bees. Most of us have mates who ride a 2 wheeler, they watch/help day 1 ,we watch/help day 2. Some of you may have both, that`s one day on a quad, 2nd day on a bike ,maybe.

The track is the easy part as we think we have that , one neighbour and the local council and MQ to sort out.

March/ April/ May , we`re thinking.

Neckelec, put you down for 2 then.


To those who are saying who are we, where`s this idea coming from and how can we do it,

We`re the "Team Ironpot" guys n girls, a country district 55k west of Kingaroy QLD, we hold and run a couple of events a year, mainly for bikes [150-200] be it the Husaberg Pony Express, Yamaha Sprint Series, Suzuki Series and ThunderX [ and the Quad Trail Ride Challenge just held over Easter] a lot of work goes into each of these events, nearly all for bikes, and no i don`t even ride a bike , been on a quad for a long time. We know we can get bikes here, provide a venue and cater for them, so we want something for the quads as well.

60 quads enjoyed our Easter weekend, sure they could all enjoy something like this.
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[mosko111]

Sounds really good!

So roughly what would noms/ camping for such an event end up being?
and would a search like "Team Ironpot" give us some footage of the tracks and lan layout?
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2 vids as an example of the tracks at Hooks place:

1st is the long track that was used over Easter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTFsUtYooA&feature=youtu.be

2nd one shows the ThunderX track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNeFP6eO04
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[ddingo]

Hey Hook book me in for 2.
just name the time and we will be there.
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[yogie]

JRE wrote:

yogie wrote: feralkid wrote: The bikes would probably have a winge and a b1tch about not having their ruts and about us messing up tracks why not give the bikeS the same respect and courtasy they show quads at HATTAH.... Because if we dont make an effort no one will, we need to stop this bitchiness as it only makes us look bad. Sounds like a great plan plus the reality is there are loads more 2 wheeler rides than us and so that would guarantee that the event would pay its way and we get to be part of a great event. I'd drive up from Adelaide rather than do finke.

what a great idea.....
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[Raptor700Matt]

feralkid wrote:

The bikes would probably have a winge and a b1tch about not having their ruts and about us messing up tracks

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[cowchaser]

I think your the one that needs to grow up Yogie. Quads and 2 wheelers should run together at the same events. By doing this we can learn about the way they run their event as they have been doing them a lot longer than we have. Combined events allow us to respect each others discipline a lot more and you will find that you may even pick up a few more numbers with more and more 2 wheeler guys wanting to ride quads. You cant compare Hattah against what these guys want to do it's totally different.

The only events I do these days are combined with 2 wheelers and we race on the same track at the same time! Sure you get the od comment about the bloody dusty quads, but thats mainly from the wanna be's. Most of the top 2 wheeler guys have a lot of respect for us and what we do
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[NeKeleC]

Hey Yogie i think you need to pull your head back in and read Hook's (just doin it) blurb before you make your comments he is a hard and fast quad supporter and rider that is putting an event together for "the quads and the bikes" not "the bikes and the quads" hey.

As Hook put it and i totally agree it is only the "wanna bees" that whinge about "the bikes" or "the quads" I have had the pleasure of racing both over the years bikes at A grade level and now quads and yes they both take a certain talent to ride but as i have learnt over my 30+ years on bikes trikes and quads, REAL RIDERS don't whinge about the track they just race it!!!

And the fact is quads are still only a small portion of the sport here in australia and to make an event successful you need the support of the bikes. And to compare one person to another (comparing Hooks to whatever Hattah is) is just short sighted when all Hook wants to do is run a successful event so he can then do it again for us next year an event shared is better than no event at all!!!
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[yogie]

NeKeleC wrote:

Hey Yogie i think you need to pull your head back in and read Hook's (just doin it) blurb before you make your comments he is a hard and fast quad supporter and rider that is putting an event together for "the quads and the bikes" not "the bikes and the quads" hey. As Hook put it and i totally agree it is only the "wanna bees" that whinge about "the bikes" or "the quads" I have had the pleasure of racing both over the years bikes at A grade level and now quads and yes they both take a certain talent to ride but as i have learnt over my 30+ years on bikes trikes and quads, REAL RIDERS don't whinge about the track they just race it!!! And the fact is quads are still only a small portion of the sport here in australia and to make an event successful you need the support of the bikes. And to compare one person to another (comparing Hooks to whatever Hattah is) is just short sighted when all Hook wants to do is run a successful event so he can then do it again for us next year an event shared is better than no event at all!!!

well I'm sorry for having an opinion, I will adjust my post to your way of thinking on this subject...
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[yogie]

NeKeleC wrote:

Hey Yogie i think you need to pull your head back in and read Hook's (just doin it) blurb before you make your comments he is a hard and fast quad supporter and rider that is putting an event together for "the quads and the bikes" not "the bikes and the quads" hey. As Hook put it and i totally agree it is only the "wanna bees" that whinge about "the bikes" or "the quads" I have had the pleasure of racing both over the years bikes at A grade level and now quads and yes they both take a certain talent to ride but as i have learnt over my 30+ years on bikes trikes and quads, REAL RIDERS don't whinge about the track they just race it!!! And the fact is quads are still only a small portion of the sport here in australia and to make an event successful you need the support of the bikes. And to compare one person to another (comparing Hooks to whatever Hattah is) is just short sighted when all Hook wants to do is run a successful event so he can then do it again for us next year an event shared is better than no event at all!!!

and who ever said I was or want to be a "wanna be" I know my limits and that aint no secret but what a great idea.
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With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[Predatory]

From my experience in competing in and running these style events in South Africa, the longer the course the better. We always aimed for nothing less than 25 Km but had some that were double. Initially we did run with the bikes but when quad numbers got to 100 plus it became an issue. I am in agreement with Smitty's comment on bikers converting to 4 wheels as this was the case in Our situation as well.
Regarding the starts, if you are going to do mass starts then you must make sure that there are no bottle neck area's in the first three Km, and if you are going to start at 30 sec interval's then make sure you time a really fast rider around the track, to make sure he does not get back before the last rider has left.
I reckon 3 hrs non stop will be a good and i think it is a great idea that the bikes marshal for us and we recipricate the next day. Bikes generally from my experience are happy for the quads to ride first as it gives them two lines to choose from.
An ironman class is a must.
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[Linc]

Sounds great but I have a few suggestions. If you want to run a national event and get entries from all over then people like to race for 2 days to make up for all the effort.

If the quads run on Sat and the bikes on Sun then the bikes will turn up sat night and the quads will all leave on Sun morning........it's basicly 2 different events and twice the work.

If the quads had a morning race each day and the bikes raced in the afternoon its 2 days of racing with a couple of classes, one time for scrutineering one set of marshals and so on.

Anyway good luck I hope it gets off the ground.

Linc

[just doin it]

Yes fair enough idea, the work factor we`re aware of but do that now for some events anyway.Could certainly get a bit more ride time with your idea.
Went to a bike trail ride [300 of them] and checked out responses to the concept, had some interesting comments and of course the ones we all get tired of hearing from a few.
But on a lighter note the big news was the fact our local shop boys gave me a yz 426 to have a loop on [ yes i know i said i don`t ride dirt bikes], and after 2/12 hours beating myself up and 16 years since riding one with my wife beside herself with the though of me getting air lifted out ,i managed without a single injury, now that`s what i call "taking one for the team" I`m sure 196 of them expected too see me at the bottom of each hill, creek and rock face.

They had a few issues throughout the day , but none bigger than at 3pm after i had served my purpose , i headed to the canteen for a light beverage and some chit chat----- no not serving till 6pm, are you kidding me.
This will not happen at our events.

Seriously guys/girls we don`t want this thread to turn into a s---t fight, the bikes will come , it would be disappointing to get 25 quads and 200 bikes, so our aim is to organise what can work best for all.
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[flipper]

So far this year have driven 3000 odd kms to do tp300, leave Wednesday for 7000 odd kms to do finke. A short drive up your way for what sounds like a great event would make a welcome change! Count me in.

[kawboy]

Sounds good! Count me in Hook so long as I can race my farm quad :p.
Like Troy said above it would be good to have a class for the heavier quads(4x4)or cv trannies but I don't really care, I will race with the 450's as long as you let me. Please do include the ThunderX track it looks awesome!
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[flipper]

Any news on this event?

I must have alzheimers because I can't remember any pain after Finke and already hanging out for another rip somewhere....

(and getting really really jealous of all these enduro events in SA!)

[go home hard]

im with you flipper even though i live in sa if team iron pot are putting it on it will be a bloody ripper and team banshee will be there work permitting
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[surfin]

No real news to report on just yet.

The wheels are in motion for it to happen early next year, ideally before Easter I think

We are currently checking on permits and asking neighbours for permission to ride on their land

Stay tuned!
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[just doin it]

Are still in negotiations with our council,
pending favourable response from them,

The Thunder x track will be used, the 1st half on the way out , the 2nd half on the way back in, the pit area being the start straight. Camping as at Thunder x

The first 7k fairly open, the next 20k timbered [ meaning your riding tracks through timbered country] and the last 7k as entertaining as we can make it . Black soil, red soil, some sand , some rocks and logs, gullys and creeks. Nothing to dangerous. That makes for roughly 35 k, might try and get that out to 40.

The hold up from council, and i`m sure you can all understand is the aftermath of floods early on. The pipes we want to use under a section of road were damaged, so need repair still.

Trying to organise classes to suite all along with the rest to go with this event , so will keep you posted
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