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dangerman4
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i personally would never by a single cylnder 4 stroke. 450 / 525 or whatever.
they are gutless compared to todays technology levels,
(Bike only)
my yfz10r has to push 1.3 kg's per hp
my 421 raptor has to push 1.8 kg's per hp
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| mickbundy wrote: | but they would not last a 20 min +1 lap race on the wood.
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what the hell does this mean??
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| dangerman4 wrote: | i personally would never by a single cylnder 4 stroke. 450 / 525 or whatever.
they are gutless compared to todays technology levels,
(Bike only)
my yfz10r has to push 1.3 kg's per hp
my 421 raptor has to push 1.8 kg's per hp
a single 4 stroke is pushing over 3 kg per hp |
Love your work DM, but these light weight juniors are pulling some mean lap times in the 300 class with maybe 10 less hp because they, and their bikes are lighter.
It looks like every kg might be more iportant than any hp (for MX anyway)
To the contrary... a stock 70hp 279kg Renegade can do ok on a MX track too 
When are you going to get off your but and build a 2 cyl 730cc 4 stroke anyway 
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OZ_450
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| dangerman4 wrote: | i personally would never by a single cylnder 4 stroke. 450 / 525 or whatever.
they are gutless compared to todays technology levels,
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my yfz10r has to push 1.3 kg's per hp
my 421 raptor has to push 1.8 kg's per hp
a single 4 stroke is pushing over 3 kg per hp |
But how does your big horsepower quad go racing mx and jumping ? Hmm did not think so |
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dangerman4
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it was never designed for jumping and you are a goose for saying something so obvious.
put the yfz10r on a speedway - flat track - enduro - finke - safari etc course and power to weight will rule supreme.
look who won safari this year.. what was he riding? a hybrid.
the motor he chose only has around the 80 hp mark yet at the end of the day he was the clear winner.
as far as reliability and fuel consumption goes it will ride hard all day long and for years, without a rebuild, as road bike engines are designed to live for tens of thousands of kays not just a couple of race meets.
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mickbundy wrote: | Quote: | | The only reason you fella's ride one is you could not afford a new 4 stroke so crap on all you like |
So how many bikes do you have??? you talk out of your assssshole. Did you make up that name so you can throw around stupid comments as you do?  smell my 2 stroke smoke when i see ya. |
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660rSkinGraph
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Woah guys i just asked a question about why i dont see banshee's racing.
Not to Start a War of 2-strokes vs 4 strokes.
I own a 4 stroke and i think i would love a 2 stroke more even though i have never ridden one i like the power!!
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| 660rSkinGraph wrote: | Woah guys i just asked a question about why i dont see banshee's racing.
Not to Start a War of 2-strokes vs 4 strokes.
I own a 4 stroke and i think i would love a 2 stroke more even though i have never ridden one i like the power!! |
keep the 660 buddy nothing wrong with them , the dude ho owned my bike sold his banshee, and his yfz 450 to build a flat track racer 660, doing his homework he found he could get more power out the 660 than the 450 and the banshee, hence he was never beaten again. |
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Banshee250R
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ive always said this
450's make sh!t riders look good
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Clarkie
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| JRE wrote: | | i'll just head out a get one then wont be a minute |
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| quad boy wrote: | | he found he could get more power out the 660 than the 450 and the banshee, hence he was never beaten again. |
lol whats his name?
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| Banshee250R wrote: | ive always said this
450's make sh!t riders look good |
im an exeption to this rule. rofl.
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| ownage wrote: | | Banshee250R wrote: | ive always said this
450's make sh!t riders look good |
im an exeption to this rule. rofl. |
You beat me last meeting 
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1sick6
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look who won safari this year.. what was he riding?. |
A BANSHEE
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shan660
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| 4stroker wrote: | | quad boy wrote: | | he found he could get more power out the 660 than the 450 and the banshee, hence he was never beaten again. |
lol whats his name? |
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| dangerman4 wrote: |
and bullet the 130 hp MA approved quad is on its way. |
As the big fella up stairs once said,
"The force is strong in this one... i feel he will be a Jedi soon."
Can't wait DM
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dangerman4
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OZ_450
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| dangerman4 wrote: | it was never designed for jumping and you are a goose for saying something so obvious.
put the yfz10r on a speedway - flat track - enduro - finke - safari etc course and power to weight will rule supreme.
look who won safari this year.. what was he riding? a hybrid.
the motor he chose only has around the 80 hp mark yet at the end of the day he was the clear winner.
as far as reliability and fuel consumption goes it will ride hard all day long and for years, without a rebuild, as road bike engines are designed to live for tens of thousands of kays not just a couple of race meets.
and bullet the 130 hp MA approved quad is on its way. |
well tyhink he was refering to motox so no good having a hybrid is it so hmmmm |
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| Banshee250R wrote: | ive always said this
450's make sh!t riders look good |
hmmmm no ppl who race mx on 450's are just smart and win races |
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OZ_450
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| ownage wrote: | | Banshee250R wrote: | ive always said this
450's make sh!t riders look good |
im an exeption to this rule. rofl. |
nathan ?? if so how is my old ltr going ?? |
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dangerman4
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well tyhink he was refering to motox so no good having a hybrid is it so hmmmm[/quote]
has the thread starter mentioned any where in this thread about motor x?
NO!
all he has said is he wants to start racing, and he isnt happy with the 4 strokes power and wants more.
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OZ_450
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DM go to mildura and see how your quad goes on speedway
seems 2 ltr 450's do ok up there |
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| OZ_450 wrote: | DM go to mildura and see how your quad goes on speedway
seems 2 ltr 450's do ok up there |
Not a quick as my Shee yet and I stress YET
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dangerman4
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i would love to take the 10r out for a few laps of speedway but MA wont let me.
thats why im building one that they will. |
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