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[buzzbro]

It is a dark future indeed

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[fossil800R]

SSYFZ450 wrote:

I propose a meeting to be organised for early in the New Year to get together and have a group discussion This meeting could involve – Organising and making everyone aware of future trail rides Planning a new attack on getting Rec Rego Discussing strategies for finding new legal areas for riding But most important – let’s get together and hear everyone’s opinion If you agree and wish to participate, please contact myself

Shayne, any progress on this meeting yet?
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[Rosco-YFZ450]

I'm with you Fossil:-
Lets get this meeting organised SOON.
We are loosing momentum again.

Would anyone be keen to ride in the Hastings Festivle Perade.
Its on the 22 or 23 Feb I think. It could be a good way of getting seen. I will supply some Banners etc. I will make some inquiries if anyone is keen.
I will also post a new thread on this matter.

Cheers...Rosco
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[yogie]

Got the letter back from VicRoads, just what I expected to be honest, but I'm a liitle shocked by his tone in the letter (or is that just me ????)
I have a few ideas though, mightn help but who knows.



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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[priesty]

Regarding the last paragraph, yeah total safety because of no access whatsoever.

I notice theres no mention of the fact that thier safety data is outdated & only addresses agricultural use.

Just curious, what are the ADR's with which we do not comply ?
Maybe it's as simple as bolting a dummy steering wheel to the handlebars..hahaha, sorry just kidding around.
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08 700xx

[fossil800R]

fossil700R wrote:

SSYFZ450 wrote: I propose a meeting to be organised for early in the New Year to get together and have a group discussion This meeting could involve – Organising and making everyone aware of future trail rides Planning a new attack on getting Rec Rego Discussing strategies for finding new legal areas for riding But most important – let’s get together and hear everyone’s opinion If you agree and wish to participate, please contact myself Shayne, any progress on this meeting yet?

Coming up to March......
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[fossil800R]

Happening..not happening???. Happened..... didn't get an invite???? Hello...anyone....
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[yogie]

fossil700R wrote:

Happening..not happening???. Happened..... didn't get an invite???? Hello...anyone....

what a blast we had, there were dancing girls, free grog, had our quads service for free, petew and hugh were handing out 50 dollar bills all night.
we all asked where you were, but know one knew.
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[fossil800R]

yogie wrote:

fossil700R wrote: Happening..not happening???. Happened..... didn't get an invite???? Hello...anyone.... what a blast we had, there were dancing girls, free grog, had our quads service for free, petew and hugh were handing out 50 dollar bills all night. we all asked where you were, but know one knew.

Damn it!!!..I knew it.
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[OZ_450]

yogie are you a member of qrcv? just curious is all?
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[yogie]

OZ_450 wrote:

yogie are you a member of qrcv? just curious is all?

No oz, I never rejoined, pretty much could see no point, once the trail riding side stopped. And lets face it I'll never be a racer...
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[OZ_450]

hmmm no point ..... hence reason why we have racing members as they have members who are in there WILLING TO ORGANIZE THINGS maybe the trail riders need to band together and do the same no use complaining it is a known fact clubs of anything are only as strong as there membership base ...... just my 2 cents worth as i always see alot of the rec riding debate here but noone wants to take any of the work or responsibilities it seems and do look at me as im a racer lol
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black covered in 5.7 powered oversize quad
model vx ss 350 hahaha
enough bass to compensate for lack of skills
Empty Wallet Racing proudly on track for GM Motorsport

[yogie]

OZ_450 wrote:

hmmm no point ..... hence reason why we have racing members as they have members who are in there WILLING TO ORGANIZE THINGS maybe the trail riders need to band together and do the same no use complaining it is a known fact clubs of anything are only as strong as there membership base ...... just my 2 cents worth as i always see alot of the rec riding debate here but noone wants to take any of the work or responsibilities it seems and do look at me as im a racer lol

yeah your right, and to be honest the club doesnt realy need trail riders, and its a good club, i was only in it 2-3 yearsbut it served me well, and I like to think what I put back into the club wasnt all that bad. And the rec riding debate i fell is nessesary, would happen if the club moved away from racing for eg, it would mean a lot of the racers would have to step up to the plate and do somthing. And me and the guys i ride with we had a "profanity removed" load of weekends away last year, not hard to arrange, just set a few ground ruls and you cant go wrong. But if the qrcv had a enduro season....
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[IRS 525]

Has anyone though about taking this to the Anti discrimination board?

Sounds like a group of people are being discriminated against here.

ph: 9628 9900 It couldn't hurt to try.

Willow.
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[Big Jb TRX450]

IRS 525 wrote:

Has anyone though about taking this to the Anti discrimination board? Sounds like a group of people are being discriminated against here. ph: 9628 9900 It couldn't hurt to try. Willow.

Never thought about it from that angle...might b on2 somthing...might even make a phone call myself !!!
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[rmhrc630]

It is a disgrace that our state govt gets away with not letting us register quads as rec rego.

I made similiar comments to Roger Pitt at the DFSE about the fact that they permit a 20 year old dunger of a bike to be road registered but a brand new rmx450 with superior hanlding and disc brakes is not peremitted (other than rec rego)

Where does Vicroads and the DFSE get off saying we wont extend the rego of quads ?

It is a farken joke

[yogie]

rmhrc630 wrote:

It is a disgrace that our state govt gets away with not letting us register quads as rec rego. I made similiar comments to Roger Pitt at the DFSE about the fact that they permit a 20 year old dunger of a bike to be road registered but a brand new rmx450 with superior hanlding and disc brakes is not peremitted (other than rec rego) Where does Vicroads and the DFSE get off saying we wont extend the rego of quads ? It is a farken joke

well it is a joke but who knows, attitudes change and so does govts, but Roger cant make any descision about rego, he's the dse part of it, and on another forum I belong to, it was a case of roger saying we will let any rego'd vechilce in the bush and vicroads were saying at the same time, dse wont let quads in regardless of rego due to damage they will do to the bush, this went back and forthfor ages, I even got roger to write that the dse had no bones about quads being in their parks, but vic roads didnt care a less.
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[rmhrc630]

roger is not the DFSE though

he is part of the plot to placate our anger in not being allowed access. I dont trust the DFSE whatsoever and will not be

the letters posted in this forum are alarming - I was personally not aware of the level of safety fwits which pervade the state govt and the DFSE people who simple wont accept ATVs in the bush.

My view is safety is a furphy - there are many things unsafe in this world and to single out ATVs is beyond a joke.

Perhaps violence is the answer to these pen pushers?

Becuase with an apathetic public who simply hand govt more and more responsibility we are being "profanity removed" over

[yogie]

rmhrc630 wrote:

Perhaps violence is the answer to these pen pushers? Becuase with an apathetic public who simply hand govt more and more responsibility we are being "profanity removed" over

mate, this will get you NO where but in jail, and I for one do not want anyone who is a member here propagating violence, because WE ARE/WILL BE TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH. I understand your frustration, we all are but this is nonsense, so if you want to help all our cause, be sensible and I think the great work Shane started with this thread, can be contuied on so I will be intouch with you and will get you to help out.
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[priesty]

yogie wrote:

rmhrc630 wrote: Perhaps violence is the answer to these pen pushers? Becuase with an apathetic public who simply hand govt more and more responsibility we are being "profanity removed" over mate, this will get you NO where but in jail, and I for one do not want anyone who is a member here propagating violence, because WE ARE/WILL BE TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH. I understand your frustration, we all are but this is nonsense, so if you want to help all our cause, be sensible and I think the great work Shane started with this thread, can be contuied on so I will be intouch with you and will get you to help out.

What happened to Shane, is he still lurking around the forum, or was he assasinated by the Vicroads/DSE hit squad & dumped in a shallow grave in a state forrest somewhere ?
AHAA !! That's why they don't want us in there !!!
Gotta love a good conspiracy theory don't ya.

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08 700xx

[yogie]

priesty wrote:

yogie wrote: rmhrc630 wrote: Perhaps violence is the answer to these pen pushers? Becuase with an apathetic public who simply hand govt more and more responsibility we are being "profanity removed" over mate, this will get you NO where but in jail, and I for one do not want anyone who is a member here propagating violence, because WE ARE/WILL BE TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH. I understand your frustration, we all are but this is nonsense, so if you want to help all our cause, be sensible and I think the great work Shane started with this thread, can be contuied on so I will be intouch with you and will get you to help out. What happened to Shane, is he still lurking around the forum, or was he assasinated by the Vicroads/DSE hit squad & dumped in a shallow grave in a state forrest somewhere ? AHAA !! That's why they don't want us in there !!! Gotta love a good conspiracy theory don't ya.

dont you have any work to do ????
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[priesty]

Do You ?
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08 700xx

[yogie]

priesty wrote:

Do You ?

no
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2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers

[rmhrc630]

yogie wrote:

rmhrc630 wrote: Perhaps violence is the answer to these pen pushers? Becuase with an apathetic public who simply hand govt more and more responsibility we are being "profanity removed" over mate, this will get you NO where but in jail, and I for one do not want anyone who is a member here propagating violence, because WE ARE/WILL BE TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH. I understand your frustration, we all are but this is nonsense, so if you want to help all our cause, be sensible and I think the great work Shane started with this thread, can be contuied on so I will be intouch with you and will get you to help out.

Yogie I apologise - I would not resort to violence.

I will aggressivket target individuals behind the restrictions though.

The DFSE are not our friends - they are an obstacle

[kfxluke]

It seems that this issue has been up in the air since December 2008. My opinion is less talk and more action. What ever it is that needs to be done, i am on board whether it be reseaching ADR's to build a case against v-roads or liasing with the DSE to get them on board with the cause as they can push v-roads to allow ATV rec reg.

As i myself have written letters in the past to v-roads and had no replys and i've had a phone conversation and got a similar story to Yogie's "not ADR approved" well it cant be that hard to get ADR approval as all of these cheap nasty import bikes that are being flogged on ebay are somehow ADR approved.

So c'mon guys lets all get together and make it happen. Thats my 2 cents worth anyway. Cheers.
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I pity the fool!