Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Midwest WA
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: Quads on camper trailers?
Anyone looked at putting quadbikes on top of a camper trailer?
I have a camper with a steel lid and boat rack which I am wondering about using to cart the bike/s over to the beach when we go camping.
Bike will be 1.5m off the ground and the CoG will be 'interesting' but can't see any real problem with the idea. Trailer is a custom build to a farmers specifications . Saves taking 2 vehicles anyway.
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Earthmover Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +
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Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject:
Hay come on mate whats the weight of the bikes & watch the tyres. Now show us some pics! _________________ If its got wheels I'll drive it!
Do it transport cops will never know ho heavy it is .
Midwest Tone 90cc 2 stroke / 110 4 stroke
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Midwest WA
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject:
Not often I'm not overloaded when we head off
5.5t over the weighbridge then pull it up sandy tracks
Strengthen the feet for the rack and get a couple of loooong ramps and I reckon it would work a treat.
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Earthmover Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 351 Location: Ayr, North Queensland
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject:
Turning her up side down and losing a shitty tinny is one thing Losing 30 or $40 grand of ATVs is somthing else }center of gravity mate{ Axle rating }is another thing _________________ If its got wheels I'll drive it!
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Midwest WA
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:21 am Post subject:
I don't think weight is an issue.
What's an average 4wd quad weight? 350-380kgs? Don't think the 2wd bikes would get up there.
I've had that much weight in firewood up there.
50mm square axle gives me about 2t and as the trailer is usually only loaded to 1.6t (2.5t on one extended trip) I am comfortable with the extra weight and a bit of load re-distribution.
Centre of gravity (CoG) . Well, the thing isn't exactly a troopie with a roof top tent and a stack of jerry cans on the roof. Don't do a lot at speed and I can make another rack for the roof that will have the bike sitting on the hardtop which will bring it down about 150mm.
Will have to remember to stay away from Macca's drive through's and underground parking
Otherwise I'll just stick the ute, tinnie and bikes on the semi and take that
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whichonedoiget Blaster class
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 133
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject:
If that doesnt work their is a mob that builds camper trailers with enough room on the drawbar to fit a full quad, I think they are "metalink" trailers not sure have to check one of me old mags they advertise in or Jayco caravans now have 2 models that you can park bikes in the back of biggest is about 22ft long 'Basestation' and the 'work n play' are the model names. good luck with ya trailer mods tho cos I dont think the Jaycos are that cheap
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Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Quads on camper trailers?
Midwest Tone wrote:
Anyone looked at putting quadbikes on top of a camper trailer?
I have a camper with a steel lid and boat rack which I am wondering about using to cart the bike/s over to the beach when we go camping.
Bike will be 1.5m off the ground and the CoG will be 'interesting' but can't see any real problem with the idea. Trailer is a custom build to a farmers specifications . Saves taking 2 vehicles anyway.
Tony
I quoted a guy to convert his camper, it can be done, not to hard actually, just need to reniforce everything and a few bits here and there and your done. PM me for details if you want. _________________ 2005 KFX700
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discodanz 4fiddy Racer
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject:
ive got a complete campsite custom camper trailer they built for me .
it has an extended draw bar that holds my yfz 450 that is wide as with a-arms axle etc and my sons suzuki 50 and if you took the spare wheel of it would take a 2 wheeler aswell .
it also has a strut assisted boat rack and a point to mount the outboard unloaded it came in just under 900 kgs not real sure uf the loaded weight but the hilux pulls it no dramas
Earthmover Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +
Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 351 Location: Ayr, North Queensland
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject:
discodanz
I watched this last night there is one of those campers in it. Much better idea for 4WDing to keep that CoG down
You can imagine two bikes up top with the camper a little floaty. Hooking a rock on the down river side wheel & and a little under force from the water. With those 360deg couplings _________________ If its got wheels I'll drive it!
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3620 Location: The Otways
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject:
discodanz wrote:
ive got a complete campsite custom camper trailer they built for me .
it has an extended draw bar that holds my yfz 450 that is wide as with a-arms axle etc and my sons suzuki 50 and if you took the spare wheel of it would take a 2 wheeler aswell .
it also has a strut assisted boat rack and a point to mount the outboard unloaded it came in just under 900 kgs not real sure uf the loaded weight but the hilux pulls it no dramas
this my creation, it aint pretty, but its a warm and dry, one quad inside, one on the front.
_________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers
feralkid The Day Starts With OZATV !
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject:
That looks really good Yogie, suits the troopy really well. Are you bringing that to TP300? _________________ "If in doubt go flat out"
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thebigdog 4fiddy Racer
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Brigadoon West Oz
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject:
Not a problem doing that. we had a very similar camper and I took it back to Albany to have a simple boat rack fitted just so I could make up a frame to carry two Polaris 400's. they did sit high and caused a bit wind drag, but it worked well. I bought a 6 metre length of tread mesh to make two 3 metre ramps. unfortuneately, I don't have any photos. _________________ "WHEN THE STAKES ARE HIGH, GET SERIOUS, GET KTM"
Dino The Day Starts With OZATV !
Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Posts: 1503 Location: Brisbane QLD
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject:
The yanks tend to do things big but here is one of there smaller outfits.
This one carried two 750 brute forces and was hauled behind a big dual-cab Chev or Ford or something like that. Total cost over there: < 15 grand _________________ Remember. We elect politicians, but we have to deal with bureaucracy.
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Midwest Tone 90cc 2 stroke / 110 4 stroke
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Midwest WA
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject:
The Complete Campsite with an ATV on the front rack goes way over the towball down weight. Campers on the Run are even worse. I wondered how they licensed them, but after seeing chinese campers with drawbars bolted on with half a dozen M10 bolts obviously anything goes when licensing a trailer.
I remember seeing a QLD made tandem camper, can't remember the name, that ticked all the boxes for camping with quads. I seriously considered building mine as a tandem.
I could take the front box off and do the same as the complete campsite but then where do I put all the crap? I feel this is a worse place to put a bike than on the top anyway. I've seen more broken drawbars than trailers turned turtle.
Like the trailer Yogie. Very flash
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject:
thebigdog wrote:
Not a problem doing that. we had a very similar camper and I took it back to Albany to have a simple boat rack fitted just so I could make up a frame to carry two Polaris 400's. they did sit high and caused a bit wind drag, but it worked well. I bought a 6 metre length of tread mesh to make two 3 metre ramps. unfortuneately, I don't have any photos.
I used the tread mesh on this...
wasnt cheap but so easy to clean the bikes. _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers
Midwest Tone 90cc 2 stroke / 110 4 stroke
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 61 Location: Midwest WA
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject:
bigdog
I take it you are loading the 2 bikes from the side not the back. I had wondered about doing this to make it easier to ride on/off forwards.
If it is an Albany Camper then it will be a solid well built trailer.
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ozquad44 Roostin Away
Joined: 28 Feb 2006 Posts: 518 Location: QLD then VIC now WA
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:17 am Post subject:
Yogie, that is a really nice looking rig you've got going on there. Practical, relativly cheap and neat. In fact if you bought the whole ambo, then the cab chassis would make an excellent tow rig for your toy carrier come camper.
My only problem would be sleeping in the same room as all the poor souls that have lost their lives over the years. How the hell do you do that big fella? My wife would freak out if I bought an ambo home as a camper! Bugger that, I would freak out! _________________ State governments give us REC rego + area to ride ATVs legaly! State Status: VIC-No (Nazi's) QLD-Yes(no place to ride tho) NT-? NSW-Yes, Stockton. TAS-Yes, Areas for ATVs + ATV rego, Go Tazzie . WA-Yes, 2 top places within 1hr of Perth. ACT-? SA-No
yogie Moderator
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:04 am Post subject:
ozquad44 wrote:
Yogie, that is a really nice looking rig you've got going on there. Practical, relativly cheap and neat. In fact if you bought the whole ambo, then the cab chassis would make an excellent tow rig for your toy carrier come camper.
My only problem would be sleeping in the same room as all the poor souls that have lost their lives over the years. How the hell do you do that big fella? My wife would freak out if I bought an ambo home as a camper! Bugger that, I would freak out!
thanks fella, I got the box for a $400, and biult my own chassis, in hindsite, I wouldnt of made it so heay duty 100x50x4mm should have used 2.5 or 3 at the most. Just have to fit the hotwaterservice, shower and its done. to date it owes me about 4k with a bit of change. and for sleeping in it, its all about the head room _________________ 2005 KFX700
With a few bells and whistles
and the twin yoshi's
American Star A-arms, tie rods
elka stickers
Shorty Shifter
I have a Waco
rossco gave me a flexx sticker
honda thumb
Great at climbing trees
durablue stickers
thebigdog 4fiddy Racer
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Brigadoon West Oz
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject:
Midwest Tone wrote:
bigdog
I take it you are loading the 2 bikes from the side not the back. I had wondered about doing this to make it easier to ride on/off forwards.
If it is an Albany Camper then it will be a solid well built trailer.
Tony
Yeah, we loaded from one side and reversed them off. We had an angle bar that we pulled the bike up to when tied down. Also gave us something to stop against. _________________ "WHEN THE STAKES ARE HIGH, GET SERIOUS, GET KTM"
thebigdog 4fiddy Racer
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Brigadoon West Oz
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject:
Hey Yogie, that look more like expanda mesh. The stuff we used was about 300mm wide that is quite often used as walk way on roofs. It's about 50mm high as well so ther is no need to stengthen it. Look like prefabed ramps. Very grippy. _________________ "WHEN THE STAKES ARE HIGH, GET SERIOUS, GET KTM"
Rosco-YFZ450 4fiddy Racer
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:28 am Post subject:
Hi guys..
This is the trailer I just built....
It fits 3 full size quads + 2 full size bikes + all the gear in the front waterproof box/wind deflector. The ramps I made from two alloy ladders that I welded some Amplamesh to.
They slide into a drop down panel on the side behind the front box.
She tows real nice (had it to 140 kph ) behind the cruiser..
tow ball down load isnt to bad cause the axle has been brought forward a heep so there is a heep of trailer behind the axle ,, put it this way before my suspension upgrade the hilux hardly sagged from the weight and doesnt at all now mine was pricey but i would hate to think of the caravens price tag ,,best and cheapest option would be to build a trailer for your quads then build a fram to support a rooftop tent or two
could always do what i sometimes do and that is tow the quad behind the camper trailer hey yogie _________________ 2012 Can am Outlander Xt 1000cc
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. Saves taking 2 vehicles anyway.
whats the weight of the bikes & watch the tyres. Now show us some pics!
Need one of these things in a crewcab mate!
