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[SXS Machine Racing Team]

Picked up the RZR in Shepparton on my way to a mates place in Hay to do some shooting and riding.

It screams ride me like something unmentionable here:



Does go like a cut snake and does its advertised speed of 55mph restricted, turbo's are meant to double their HP which would just be scary.

generally sits pretty well but you do feel a lot more steady with two in.

Everything happens between 4 and 5 thou rpm, takes a little getting used to "clutching" the auto transmission off the line via a fine control of the accelerator so you dont embarrass yourself with bunny hops.

Then just give it to it and at 4000 she just takes off and pulls like a Mexican hooker.

Roll of and on the throttle around most corners and brake where you have to but keep the revs up and youre away like a bullet.

Powerslides are the name of the game and just back off that little to hookup again when youre pointed in the right direction and go go go!!!

Doughnuts are to be done with the driver on the inside I found out when a series of 3 mistakes eventually put me on my side.

But all in all she's a stable piece of kit and you have to really abuse it to go wrong, most Rec riders will not be able to go as fast for as long as the RZR and its std rider because wear and tear is low and of course mimics the driving position.

First - look the part



Wear the gear, its still 55mph



You can do this



And this:



and this....



and lots of this.




But stuff it and you'll still do this.....



If it wasnt for the hack job on the doughnuts I would have said I hadnt tested its limits yet.

Didnt actually get picks of its best track work by far as I actually did the photos at the end of the day and did the doughts first and put it down so was a tad sore to go out far.

Got to get skid plates. A-arm protectors, brush guards and b/c i want to use it for hunting you can buy a "silencer" pipe from out of the states to get all sneaky like. I may buy a performance pipe at the same time if fitting is quicker but you dont need the horses, maybe it'll change where it happens in the Rev range?

Have seen 820cc big bore kits (760 std) and turbo's a about $5k US (1/2 price of machine) but the turbo's take HP from 34 to 72HP claimed. That would be "profanity removed" scary on that wheelbase. It goes plenty hard without it.

Joy...... [/i]
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[fossil800R]

Great write up and awesome pics Gav, it's good to see you mobile... finally. They look like some good fun.
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fossil700R wrote:

Great write up and awesome pics Gav, it's good to see you mobile... finally. They look like some good fun.

Just glad I had my "photographer" there to help me pick it up afterwards and boy was he a bit sheepish to get back in to go home!!!

Especially after he refused to help me pick it up til he had "covered" the crash scene!!

Thanks Foss did enjoy and I think the little red dune buggy went a long way with a crowd of potential Rec Riders having a mid-life about their toys long gone!!
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[Barney]

NIce pics Geeman , good write up and good lay over lol ,, maybe you should include a good spare roll bar in your list of to get items , and maybe self inflating air bags to assist in the uprighting of the machine , cheers well done and glad to see you got some wheels
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Grizzly wrote:

NIce pics Geeman , good write up and good lay over lol ,, maybe you should include a good spare roll bar in your list of to get items , and maybe self inflating air bags to assist in the uprighting of the machine , cheers well done and glad to see you got some wheels

Ta Grizz, it was graceful if he had of caught it instead of gawping!! hehe

Brush guards, rock sliders etc should take care of most but I may add the ARB/TJM style wheel arch brush guard that other after market gear i have seen does not seem to have. Then i wont have wasted the hole the dash subframe has punched in the front quarter panel.

If not the air bag a set of Goldwing "stop assist" wheels, like training wheels that drop out to help those old buggers hold up their 350kg motorcycles should do the trick and look real cool down the track, NOT

Hasnt seen water yet but you may have noted the snorkel prefitted as it tends to carry dust in an airpocket in the engine bay, air intake area.

Has 8-9000 RPM on the combination display, but it must only hit that in low gear as its hitting the 55mph at 5000rpm so i assume you need a pretty straight line and maybe a stiff tail wind to wind it up further in high.

Theres so many aftermarket options including whole dashboards and plenty of bar work, wheels, plastics, on and on.

I think a bit of protective barwork and some luggage and gun capacity are priorities for me. Then some Nav aids and UHF and maybe the obligatory winch. But buying an appropriate car to tow it with might eat the budget first as the Jeeps economy went to crap with that load and aerodynamics.

Rode a few bikes both road and off road first and wrists and hands cant take it, so its the "wheelchair" version of quadding but may suit my growing family and what i want to do better overall as it seems.

Still picking the insects and dust from my teeth from grinnin!
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[Big Jb TRX450]

geeman1969 wrote:

most Rec riders will not be able to go as fast for as long as the RZR

how can u make that call Gavin? how would u know that? how do u rate "most rec riders"? id b happy 2 step 4ward & put your little theory 2 the test
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[Scooter]

Here's a plus 6" cams approved RZR we built.
Every aftermarket part we could buy at the time was thrown at it.


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Big Jb TRX450 wrote:

geeman1969 wrote: most Rec riders will not be able to go as fast for as long as the RZR how can u make that call Gavin? how would u know that? how do u rate "most rec riders"? id b happy 2 step 4ward & put your little theory 2 the test

Pretty easily actually, its just common sense.

I'll explain it for you as it isnt clear. Since most people drive and many fewer people ride bikes and even people who ride bikes drive much more than they ride bikes the muscles to work and control the RZR will be much more developed and have more endurance than those riding bikes. You dont have to scramble all over the bike and so use less energy and muscles so you can just keep going and going. Endurance and energy.

IRS plays a big part of it too, just like a Outlaw IRS will beat a Outlaw 450 up a potholed road EVERYTIME given all other factors equal, because IRS lets you keep traction moving forward while a solid axle will bounce you all over the place, not keep traction and will just torque itself or a chain apart if its manages to keep its suspension together. But dont let the fact manufacturers are moving towards IRS for any off track machine sway your opinion on it, you stick to your guns. If IRS didnt make any sense they'd still have solid front axles and not a-arms, all about putting rubber down.

I'll let common sense, my experience with athelete's, manufacturing practice and engineering reality speak for my opinion on the matter.
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Scooter wrote:

Here's a plus 6" cams approved RZR we built. Every aftermarket part we could buy at the time was thrown at it.

Absolutely brilliant Scooter.

It was still a toss up between buying a Polaris Headquarters "std" custom machine and the last years discount model even with that discount because of the aftermarket kit you can buy.

Im just a kid in a candy store on that site.
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[Big Jb TRX450]

just like the time u told all the other users on here that a straight axle quad couldnt do what a can-am did from a utube link? u werent on the money that time sport .i have no doubt u read alot & research Gav but if i was (eg) 2 say 2 u an LT-400 couldnt keep up with a Ds650 or a raptor 700 ud probably come out & say no the 400 wouldnt b able 2 keep up yet in a practical sense iv seen it, u keep reading Gav...like i said id b happy 2 run along side u & c who holds a constant pace
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[Big Jb TRX450]

just like the time u told all the other users on here that a straight axle quad couldnt do what a can-am did from a utube link? u werent on the money that time sport .i have no doubt u read alot & research Gav but if i was (eg) 2 say 2 u an LT-400 couldnt keep up with a Ds650 or a raptor 700 ud probably come out & say no the 400 wouldnt b able 2 keep up yet in a practical sense iv seen it, u keep reading Gav...like i said id b happy 2 run along side u & c who holds a constant pace
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Big Jb TRX450 wrote:

just like the time u told all the other users on here that a straight axle quad couldnt do what a can-am did from a utube link? u werent on the money that time sport .i have no doubt u read alot & research Gav but if i was (eg) 2 say 2 u an LT-400 couldnt keep up with a Ds650 or a raptor 700 ud probably come out & say no the 400 wouldnt b able 2 keep up yet in a practical sense iv seen it, u keep reading Gav...like i said id b happy 2 run along side u & c who holds a constant pace

If you ar going to quote another post and drag it in here do it accurately. Im not ya sport or even your acquaintance and your previous posts have proven that. I made an apology at that time for the way i said it to you haven made that mistake, not for the message which was factual. And you proved yourself unworthy of that.

Since you couldnt make the real deduction because you couldnt think of all that data at that time for yourself and have once again brought the most ridiculous of examples to the table I'll point out.

You saw different riders on different bikes with different potential accelerations, taking different lines with approximately the same mechanical capability in that they are all straight axle.

To compare apples with apples you need same rider, same line, same potential acceleration IRS vs straight axle, sufficient sample data in number of runs probably over different riders etc etc, if you dsont know about data sampling look it up on the net.

You go with what you have seen but who am I to fly in the face of common sense mechanical engineering and the decision of all manufacturers to produce IRS.

I dont know what Im meant to be reading but what Im looking at now is nothing Im going to waste any more time or effort on.
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[Big Jb TRX450]

geeman1969 wrote:

Big Jb TRX450 wrote: just like the time u told all the other users on here that a straight axle quad couldnt do what a can-am did from a utube link? u werent on the money that time sport .i have no doubt u read alot & research Gav but if i was (eg) 2 say 2 u an LT-400 couldnt keep up with a Ds650 or a raptor 700 ud probably come out & say no the 400 wouldnt b able 2 keep up yet in a practical sense iv seen it, u keep reading Gav...like i said id b happy 2 run along side u & c who holds a constant pace If you ar going to quote another post and drag it in here do it accurately. Im not ya sport or even your acquaintance and your previous posts have proven that. I made an apology at that time for the way i said it to you haven made that mistake, not for the message which was factual. And you proved yourself unworthy of that. Since you couldnt make the real deduction because you couldnt think of all that data at that time for yourself and have once again brought the most ridiculous of examples to the table I'll point out. You saw different riders on different bikes with different potential accelerations, taking different lines with approximately the same mechanical capability in that they are all straight axle. To compare apples with apples you need same rider, same line, same potential acceleration IRS vs straight axle, sufficient sample data in number of runs probably over different riders etc etc, if you dsont know about data sampling look it up on the net. You go with what you have seen but who am I to fly in the face of common sense mechanical engineering and the decision of all manufacturers to produce IRS. I dont know what Im meant to be reading but what Im looking at now is nothing Im going to waste any more time or effort on.

u really make me laugh . u think im slinging sh*t @ u, again wrong, i dont know y your going on about an apology i have 4gotten about ages ago (id leave that 1 alone) i just cant help but laugh @ some of your very direct statements & what makes me laugh even more is your lack of experience yet your still happy 2 put blunt statements....again i will happily put my bike along side yours so u can prove what u wrote...thats all im saying...straight 4ward !
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Big Jb TRX450 wrote:

geeman1969 wrote: Big Jb TRX450 wrote: just like the time u told all the other users on here that a straight axle quad couldnt do what a can-am did from a utube link? u werent on the money that time sport .i have no doubt u read alot & research Gav but if i was (eg) 2 say 2 u an LT-400 couldnt keep up with a Ds650 or a raptor 700 ud probably come out & say no the 400 wouldnt b able 2 keep up yet in a practical sense iv seen it, u keep reading Gav...like i said id b happy 2 run along side u & c who holds a constant pace If you ar going to quote another post and drag it in here do it accurately. Im not ya sport or even your acquaintance and your previous posts have proven that. I made an apology at that time for the way i said it to you haven made that mistake, not for the message which was factual. And you proved yourself unworthy of that. Since you couldnt make the real deduction because you couldnt think of all that data at that time for yourself and have once again brought the most ridiculous of examples to the table I'll point out. You saw different riders on different bikes with different potential accelerations, taking different lines with approximately the same mechanical capability in that they are all straight axle. To compare apples with apples you need same rider, same line, same potential acceleration IRS vs straight axle, sufficient sample data in number of runs probably over different riders etc etc, if you dsont know about data sampling look it up on the net. You go with what you have seen but who am I to fly in the face of common sense mechanical engineering and the decision of all manufacturers to produce IRS. I dont know what Im meant to be reading but what Im looking at now is nothing Im going to waste any more time or effort on. u really make me laugh . u think im slinging sh*t @ u, again wrong, i dont know y your going on about an apology i have 4gotten about ages ago (id leave that 1 alone) i just cant help but laugh @ some of your very direct statements & what makes me laugh even more is your lack of experience yet your still happy 2 put blunt statements....again i will happily put my bike along side yours so u can prove what u wrote...thats all im saying...straight 4ward !

Can we keep the thread on topic please...
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[mickbundy]

Yep great write up and photo's
The Son has a Rhino up at Tom Price they are a lot of fun as seen on Thumb Pump 2.
I have had a spin in it when it was in Perth not as fast as the speed you said the RZR does but yeah a heap of fun and fast enough for me and at my age you are correct I could go most of the day in one where as on one of the quads about 15 mins going fast ( fast for me that is ) fairly slow really I am buggered
Yep the RZR looks the goods ENJOY

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mickbundy wrote:

Yep great write up and photo's The Son has a Rhino up at Tom Price they are a lot of fun as seen on Thumb Pump 2. I have had a spin in it when it was in Perth not as fast as the speed you said the RZR does but yeah a heap of fun and fast enough for me and at my age you are correct I could go most of the day in one where as on one of the quads about 15 mins going fast ( fast for me that is ) fairly slow really I am buggered Yep the RZR looks the goods ENJOY

Ta Mick, was able to get out on it again today for just some quick fun in some dirt backroads out rural Vic at my bro- in - laws and gunned it up to the point where I was bouncing off the electronically imposed 60mph mark (it just starts cutting engine firing to slow you down).

Once again its just a smart move on behalf on polaris to self regulate this starting entry of a sports & rec style buggy to be seen as resposible to rider safety and 60mph feels hell fact at 12 inches off the ground.

Then just took the whole swaggle of relo's for some circle work in a lush paddock of melon grass. But didnt show them the pic of the buggy on its side or go anywhere near as hard in the corners to tip it up. But they all commented how lush the suspension was. And the speed of course

And at two up it is getting much more nicely planted into the compression and rebound setting of the shock and not just bouncing around at the beginning of the spring/shock combo which seems to happen with just one in.

I really have to get off my arse and have a go at www.RZRheadquarters.com but its a few nights entertainment in itself, to select some bar work, definitely need some custom luguage although there seems to lack a (Bin Bag) to put say between the two custom Jerry cans in the back to increase your potential for an overnighter, Ive certainly seen a lot of good work by guys on here to execute some well put together carry capacity for that. If you have a look at that site and othe SxS websites and their huge range of components because they have one model per manufacturer in most cases sort of thing, when other Manufacturers will put their response UTVs into the market which as we all know is huge in the states.

Maybe I'll resort to the "Outback" brothers approach and opt for a small trailer in that instance til you get to your fun ride points. Have to consult between them and grizz who seems to have the most gear on a pike pic wise. Better wait til I have the folding first!

I find it scary impossible to think of putting a turbo kit on the standard wheelbase though, even improving the suspension is not gunna help CoG when you make 34HP into 72 and it pulls two wheels in the air on take-off! Like I said smart move self regulating the spped of the standard engine.

Yeah I enjoyed seeing the boys cut loose on TP2 DVD I take it he was one of the stars there?

The buggy makes great eye candy too, every fuel stop is about 3 times as long now!!
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Scooter wrote:

Here's a plus 6" cams approved RZR we built. Every aftermarket part we could buy at the time was thrown at it.

Whats the event and class you are racing it in Scoot? Any action snaps.
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[Big Jb TRX450]

its all good yogie, im right on topic...u know me!
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[froggy]

geeman1969 wrote:

Scooter wrote: Here's a plus 6" cams approved RZR we built. Every aftermarket part we could buy at the time was thrown at it. Whats the event and class you are racing it in Scoot? Any action snaps.

scoot built it for one of his clients who raced it in finke for the last two years.

[Scooter]

Got this pic - thanks mick
Froggy u up for a steer next year?
You might have to fight the girls for it


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Scooter wrote:

Got this pic - thanks mick Froggy u up for a steer next year? You might have to fight the girls for it

What a great goer!! Finished each year no worries? With the extra width have you set your eyes on either the 820cc big bore and or Turbo kits?

How was the endurance in it?
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[froggy]

sounds good to me what simon doing it in a copter or on a lama?

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froggy wrote:

sounds good to me what simon doing it in a copter or on a lama?

Have you driven it before Froggy? What did you think of it?

Hows the upgraded suspension in this one against the standard if you got a go in both? I find the suspension just a little springey yet at one up as its not really hitting much of the shocks on the flat but two up everyone just loves how plush the ride is.
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[froggy]

nah i havent driven it scoots the man to ask about this stuff. It Completed finke in 09, 08 they broke a drive shaft but used aftermarket ones for 09.

[47industries]

It is a beast, and ultra reliable now....but earlier!
The new sport models are pretty trick too. We got one to use as a Kitten Car Care promo machine and to set up 47industries events. Much plusher suspension and wider so less prone to driving her upside down, not that it isn't still possible, hey Scooter?
Here is ours: http://www.47industries.com/kittenrzr.htm
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