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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: Banshee troubles |
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i did a bottom end rebuild, the cdi died when i started it for the first time, i got a new one(n tested it on 2 other banshees).
the bike starts first kick, but wont rev at all, the tors has been disabled, n it ran fine before the build, there is no e_brake either, something seems to be limiting it, i've got new stock carbs on it, n for shits n giggles i put the original ones back on, but no change.
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Clarkie The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 1138 Location: Mildura VIC  |
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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What have you done to disable the tors? _________________ Has turned to the Dark Side! |
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Big Jb TRX450 Roostin Away
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 939 Location: victoria  |
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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pm username "4stroker" he knows his stuff when it comes 2 banshee's _________________ 04 TRX 450r
with a bit of this & a bit of that |
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doorslammer Roostin Away
Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 902 Location: Northern WA  |
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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when you say limiting it, does it pop and backfire or just dies like theres no spark? _________________ 01 Banshee
Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway |
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1sick6 Big Bore, Stroked & Bling +

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 340 Location: SA  |
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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check your wiring, and where the TORS used to be coz to me it sounds like the TORS is the problem _________________ He Who Dies With The Most Toys, Wins
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:25 am Post subject: |
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like Clarkie said what exactly have you done to disable the tors? have you got the new caps and drilled and tapped for the idle screws? or just disconnected the wires and left the assemblies on the carbs?
if the tors removal is all mickey mouse, make sure your choke tube is on between the 2 carbs, and your slides are in correctly, the cut out has to be to the rear but also there is a left and a right slide, they'll go into each carb ok but it wont run real good if you havent got it right! there is a groove in the side of the slides and a brass pin in the carb body to hold them in place... sorry if its all a bit vague its been a while since ive played with stock carbs! _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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Clarkie The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 1138 Location: Mildura VIC  |
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Like 4stroker said, it doesnt run real sweet with the slides in backwards , also make sure you disconected the black box under the fueltank on LHS and the 3 pin plugs on both carbs, Fixed a banshee the other day that was doing what u described
Hey 4stroker I put my timing back to 2 deg and it seems to pull better, Thanks _________________ Has turned to the Dark Side! |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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to disable tors, park brake switch removed, throttle switch removed, tors black box removed, carb switchs disconnected.
when i kick the bike it starts, but wont rev at all, can use choke, no different sound, W.O.T. will make it pop, if held open, and will flood if i keep it open |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| 4stroker wrote: | like Clarkie said what exactly have you done to disable the tors? have you got the new caps and drilled and tapped for the idle screws? or just disconnected the wires and left the assemblies on the carbs?
if the tors removal is all mickey mouse, make sure your choke tube is on between the 2 carbs, and your slides are in correctly, the cut out has to be to the rear but also there is a left and a right slide, they'll go into each carb ok but it wont run real good if you havent got it right! there is a groove in the side of the slides and a brass pin in the carb body to hold them in place... sorry if its all a bit vague its been a while since ive played with stock carbs! |
the bike ran before rebuild, still running stock carbs, with the idle on top (tors, cause the throttle was too heavy 4 the dual gasser),
the slides r in the rite way cause i did the carb sync with watch glass,
And i try the other set of carbs i have ( with stock jetting in it), excactly the same sound, n acting the same, any other ideas??? |
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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first of all check all your grounds.
check your pick up gap between flywheel and ignition pickup. use a business card to set the gap.
get a coil from a known running banshee and try it on yours. they hardly ever fail, but its so easy to swap over so worth a try.
failing all that, get a haynes manual or similar and test your stator.
what reeds are in the bike? are they in good condition? _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| 4stroker wrote: | first of all check all your grounds.
check your pick up gap between flywheel and ignition pickup. use a business card to set the gap.
get a coil from a known running banshee and try it on yours. they hardly ever fail, but its so easy to swap over so worth a try.
failing all that, get a haynes manual or similar and test your stator.
what reeds are in the bike? are they in good condition? |
i got it to rev full noies once, then the cdi died, got the manual, tested stator, it came up all good, but i think the pick up is playing funny buggers, running boysen reeds, there nor split or cracked, stopper is all good as well.
the ground, i checked the one on the voltage reg, n the coil one is good 2, just waiting on the new stator n pick up, hope iz just that, did have alot of corrosion, n salt, well let u know if its that |
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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yeah well i was thinkin that the dodgy stator fried your cdi... coz they dont usually just die like that!
hope you didnt buy a ricky stator... for about $150 you can get your stock one repaired better than new... _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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Quad The Day Starts With OZATV !
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 2773 Location: UP FRONT  |
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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where do you get your parts from.
just ask then they will know there full of knowledge.
so you would think. |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| buyin parts from scott, hope like hell its just the stator, other wise im gonna feel heaps dumb |
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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howd ya go with it mate? _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| well i put the new stator on today, kicked it nuffin, didnt start at all, put more fuel in tank, gotta check keyway to make sure it didnt fall out, but im very close to given it to yammy, n get them to fix it cause im outta darwin for the next 6weeks................. Piece of rent!!! |
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Huskygoat The Day Starts With OZATV !

Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1812 Location: Winnellie Darwin  |
Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Mate do you know bones at Darwin dirt bikes he worked at yamaha he is yarawonga some where . _________________ Truth and Honor and Trust ... never under estimate Them. |
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4stroker

Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 1420 Location: North Queensland  |
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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what happened with this jimmi? _________________ 2002 SE Banshee |
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dmn_jimmi 50cc nipper
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Darwin Nt  |
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: Yay |
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6 weeks at yamaha n they got it goin, donno wot they did, they did change the coil??? (did that 6months ago hmmmm) but its goin good guns now, did have a good laugh at a 660 in my roosted hehe.
The shee lives again |
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