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[Max444]

One of my mates was just in at the polaris dealer and there is some race pack deal on RZR S....something to do with free gear and sponsorship $$$
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Max444 wrote:

One of my mates was just in at the polaris dealer and there is some race pack deal on RZR S....something to do with free gear and sponsorship $$$

What dealer and what race series? Exact details?
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[Roycroft]

I know polaris are helping people get in a new rzr.
Thats great
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Roycroft wrote:

I know polaris are helping people get in a new rzr. Thats great

Its not great if people arent being told the truth Roy. So I'm all ears.
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[fossil800R]

SXS Machine racing team wrote:

Roycroft wrote: I know polaris are helping people get in a new rzr. Thats great Its not great if people arent being told the truth Roy. So I'm all ears.

Nothing on their website and nothing from our local guy in Geraldton either. We are looking at picking one of these up next year so I would be interested in any performance or race packs available.
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[Roycroft]

Im not sure of the details, and im not sure why the negitivity.
if you do race and want sponsorship nothings for free , you have to get out off your ass get to know yiur local bike dealer promote, win, and sell for them.
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[SXS Machine Racing Team]

fossil700R wrote:

SXS Machine racing team wrote: Roycroft wrote: I know polaris are helping people get in a new rzr. Thats great Its not great if people arent being told the truth Roy. So I'm all ears. Nothing on their website and nothing from our local guy in Geraldton either. We are looking at picking one of these up next year so I would be interested in any performance packs available. The majority of Max's posts seem to be directing guys to Polaris products. Dealer maybe?

I'll forward promote my own rail rider Foss I have in for sale!! She goes like a cracker.

100hrs 400km barely run in but enough work to get rid of the teething problems, talk to Pete if you want a second opnion, he should take responsibility for his own work anyway!!
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Roycroft wrote:

Im not sure of the details, and im not sure why the negitivity. if you do race and want sponsorship nothings for free , you have to get out off your ass get to know yiur local bike dealer promote, win, and sell for them.

Mick if you prefer or Mr Roycroft, to let you know the situation that is recorded elsewhere in the UTV section I'll repost it here.

Last year Polaris sponsored some events through CCDA here in Vic. CCDA last year were only able to run 2 events before a local government refused them a permit to race so no insurance and no race.

CCDA instead of just moving onto their next races (maybe they tried, maybe they didnt, CCDA VIC will communicate NOTHING AT ALL OF SUBSTANCE)

Instead they are trying to change the legislation that allows local governments to refuse any offroad racing not on a racetrack for any type of vehicle, via a shonkey method despite being warned the current minister would not be the moinister after the election and the current government was likily not to be the current government.

So the situation is CCDA have no racing established for next year in Vic, will not inform their members of how they are trying to get back to racing status (I know what they are doing) and dont know when they will have racing available if at all.

Under this set of circumstances I want to make entirely sure that people being sold anything in Vic are not being done so under the Auspoices of "we'll pay your entry to local CCDA events".

I am making sure that the FACTS, not the spin, rule when people are outlaying $25-$28grand. Thats all

Cheers

Gavin
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[Roycroft]

And i am not sure what this has to do with a dealer offering a great price and assistance to a buyer.
Polotics is not my stroung point as i have no interest in it what so ever as i dont vote.
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Roycroft wrote:

And i am not sure what this has to do with a dealer offering a great price and assistance to a buyer. Polotics is not my stroung point as i have no interest in it what so ever as i dont vote.

Since when has Politics had anything to do with this thread?

This is to do with people are being promised sponsorship $$ how?? My guess right now is it is in the form of race entry fees. To race in what?? Nothing is running.

I'm not sure what is yanking you chain here but you are pushing overly hard when all that is being asked is the details of the deal??

What is it you dont under stand about post number 2?

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What dealer and what race series? Exact details?

That is the question on the table. Its pretty simple really anyone would be able to answer that.
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[Roycroft]

As the person who started this thread he knows more than me. I believe can am want to get involved as well. Sorry but thats all i know
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Roycroft wrote:

As the person who started this thread he knows more than me. I believe can am want to get involved as well. Sorry but thats all i know

I can tell you for a fact if it is CCDA racing in Vic, Can Am want nothing to do with it.

Can Am want one thing and thats something we agree 100% on, thats a classification of our own in either MA or CAMS (Can Am definately want it to be MA but will take CAMS in a pinch) thats whats happening with them and I seperately.

I believe you would agree with that Mick that we dont want to be locked into single event racing.

Apart from that Polaris have made nothing clear to me unsuprisingly except they are in support of CCDA. There is even a "Polaris class" in the main CCDA event for the year at Cobar which you can also read in another thread that wont be expanded until another manufacturer puts their hand in their pocket.

Thats the holistic picture.

My first post, not aimed at you to answer in anyway Mick, is what are the specifics of the deal ?(maybe I'd like to take it up you know!) and the racing they are referring to?. The question is that simple.
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[PJSRZR]

I am sorry but I want to try and set the record straight here.

QLD Xtreme winch Challenge events run by Dave Metcalfe are not run under the same umbrella as the CCDA, and are not linked nor effected by anything political going on in VIC. That includes ANY events he will also run in NSW next year. He already has dates on his website for events next year and I am currently working with him on some SXS ONLY type events for 2011 as well. Our aim is to ensure events run in QLD, NSW, VIC and elsewhere, no matter who runs them (private of CCDA) are run with the same set of rules and ergs to give owners a variety of event options.

Cliffhanger at Cobar is also run by a private promoter that helps promote the CCDA by ensuring the main bulk of 4x4 trucks comply to the CCDA's class specifications. They have for most of the last 5 years, also allowed certain "trial" classes to run that are not CCDA spec in order to gauge the prospective interest by future competitiors. This will be the case in 2011 with the SXS's and ANY BRAND, MODEL AND MAKE is welcome to enter as long as they comply to safety guidelines and "tentative" class guidleines that may wish to be introduced by the manufacturer or a majority of the SXS owners. AT THIS POINT ONLY POLARIS HAVE EXPRESSED ANY INTEREST IN BEING INVOLVED AND AS SUCH WE ARE MUCH FURTHER ADVANCED WITH REGS FOR RZRS. WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER but we are still happy to accept entries from owners of such.

The CCDA is taking its time to ensure there is a permanent fix in "VIC" so the misinterpretation of the rule by councils is not repeated again in the future. These things take time, and realistically what politician is interested in such issues when they are trying to hang onto their job during an election campaign.

Yes Polaris are about to announce a special race package deal for purchases of RZRS models, but as I have not been at my office for the last 2 days I do not have the full details at hand, however I will put them on this thread on Monday when I have read the dealer memo that one of my salesman has received and verbally mentioned to me.

If MA or CAMS also finally get around to introducing a class that will be excellent, but I am not associated with any of this work and have not been asked to be involved in the establishment of any classes by them so I am just trying to work with promoters and organisations that are at least "happy" to give SXS's a go now.

Phil
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[jackass/450]

Hey Phil,

That is great news regarding QXWC.

Cheers
Chris

[47industries]

Gav quoted:

"I can tell you for a fact if it is CCDA racing in Vic, Can Am want nothing to do with it."

"Can Am want one thing and thats something we agree 100% on, thats a classification of our own in either MA or CAMS (Can Am definately want it to be MA but will take CAMS in a pinch) thats whats happening with them and I seperately."

I am not sure where these "facts" came from Gav? I wouldn't say that Can-am want nothing to do with CCDA, in fact any body that runs UTV events will be supported in one way or another by BRP. I think you may be misquoting ME in that one there mate, where I believe it would be advantageous for MA to allow UTV racing under their permits, as it is in most cases the motorcycle manufacturers who produce these machines, so a relationship between the controlling body, event promoters and potential sponsors is already established. Cams would also be an option but looking at it from an event organizing point of view, and being a little selfish I suppose, we already run off road events under MA that would suit UTV's, so adding another class or two would be easier and cheap for competitors and promoters alike.
CCDA, MA, Cams, Black Events, who cares, lets just get as many options working as we can before we start trying to get it perfect. It is hard to fine tune nothing!
BRP have openly stated that they want to work with other UTV manufacturers to promote the sport of UTV riding and racing, and 47industries is working in the background with insurance options to try and help the cause. Polaris are doing a great job with CCDA and they should be commended for that. This sponsorship program for RZRS customers is a great idea too, which can only assist in growing the sport.
Nice work guy's.
Mick@47
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47industries wrote:

Gav quoted: "I can tell you for a fact if it is CCDA racing in Vic, Can Am want nothing to do with it." "Can Am want one thing and thats something we agree 100% on, thats a classification of our own in either MA or CAMS (Can Am definately want it to be MA but will take CAMS in a pinch) thats whats happening with them and I seperately." I am not sure where these "facts" came from Gav? I wouldn't say that Can-am want nothing to do with CCDA, in fact any body that runs UTV events will be supported in one way or another by BRP. I think you may be misquoting ME in that one there mate, where I believe it would be advantageous for MA to allow UTV racing under their permits, as it is in most cases the motorcycle manufacturers who produce these machines, so a relationship between the controlling body, event promoters and potential sponsors is already established. Cams would also be an option but looking at it from an event organizing point of view, and being a little selfish I suppose, we already run off road events under MA that would suit UTV's, so adding another class or two would be easier and cheap for competitors and promoters alike. CCDA, MA, Cams, Black Events, who cares, lets just get as many options working as we can before we start trying to get it perfect. It is hard to fine tune nothing! BRP have openly stated that they want to work with other UTV manufacturers to promote the sport of UTV riding and racing, and 47industries is working in the background with insurance options to try and help the cause. Polaris are doing a great job with CCDA and they should be commended for that. This sponsorship program for RZRS customers is a great idea too, which can only assist in growing the sport. Nice work guy's. Mick@47

Well certainly didnt mean to Mick, I may not have taken in the full understanding of what you were saying to me on that issue.
Perhaps I'll send you the quote as I remember it seperately.

Other than that you can have my apologies of course for misquoting.

It still changes nothing on the first post for what everyone has said, I think everyone is interested in what this specifics of this deal is, people can take advantage of it if its out there but nobody can go for a deal thats not in the public eye.

Gavin
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[Max444]

obviously some good drugs being taken here looking at the replies
i rang my local dealer and it includes a fair whack of accessories a discount and free race tent. you have to fill out an application as there is only so many of these packs availble
Sounds good to me so i am headed in to see him later this week
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Max444 wrote:

One of my mates was just in at the polaris dealer and there is some race pack deal on RZR S....something to do with free gear and sponsorship $$$

How did this ^^^^ turn into this down here vvvv ??

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i rang my local dealer and it includes a fair whack of accessories a discount and free race tent. you have to fill out an application as there is only so many of these packs availble

Where's the sponsorship $$$'s?? Who's on the drugs now 50% of the deal has fallen off the wagon??

All that is being asked is where, who and how much so that people people can make their own decision to follow that up and know where to go.

Otherwise unquantified posts such as this that are totally unquantified and unqualified marketing statements from people with 9 posts on the board, just smack of spam.

Got nothing at all against anyone having a great deal just post it up.
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Gav maybe instead of being on here ranting and raving on about other isses , maybe you should have just picked up the phone and called your local dealer to get the heads up straight from his mouth so you would not have to be critical with post's that had no relevance to what was first posted
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Yay it exists!!

Hopefully enough events (insurance) can be got up in enough area's that people can attend to fulfill the criteria and they canget the sponsorship deal.

Well done Polaris!
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Grizzly wrote:

Gav maybe instead of being on here ranting and raving on about other isses , maybe you should have just picked up the phone and called your local dealer to get the heads up straight from his mouth so you would not have to be critical with post's that had no relevance to what was first posted

Thanks for that suggestion its really is much appreciated.

But when somebody with 8 posts of expereince starts promising handouts that are not part of general knowledge (Foss couldnt get them I couldnt get them and even Phil a Polaris dealer didnt have his hands on them at the time) I believe they deserve to be examined in the public spotlight and I'm not going to do their work for them. As if I DONT know several Polaris dealers I own one. What makes you think I didn't Grizz???

People deserve protection from SPAM and since people couldnt find it I asked Max to cough it up. Whats the big deal on that.

And perhaps you shouldn't jsut focus your criticism on me Griz since its all there in black and white that any other criticism is directly pointed at other peoples negative feedback to myself like your own just now.

Somebody said a deal was on I questioned it (8 post man)
Somebody said why the negativity and I stated why etcetc
Nobody could find the deal even Phil as a polaris dealer!!

So when I have done nothing but promote the sport and question a dubious post that maybe you should answer to why you think I'm your whipping boy every time you pull it out? Any criticisms for anyone else? No?
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So like Roycroft said in the first place...

I know polaris are helping people get in a new rzr.
Thats great


BRP are keen as mustard to get into UTV also.
There are not a lot of the new Commanders coming to Aust in this production run Canadian financial year.
Australian budgets and programs for next Canadian financial year (1st Feb) will be being ripped into about now.
BRP and Polaris have been talking for the last year (as soon as the Can-Am SxS became a reality) and are happy to work together on growing the SxS scene.

Having a new model in a field in development stages, it is most likely that we'll hear more from BRP around Feb.
Until then... keep in touch with your local dealer.
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[Roycroft]

Max444 wrote:

One of my mates was just in at the polaris dealer and there is some race pack deal on RZR S....something to do with free gear and sponsorship $$$

i see this being correct, sponsorship $$ means money off or buget. any type of sponsorship is fantastic, i know for sure its pretty hard out there to get any discounts to go race, good on Polaris for showing us the $$ and the marketing budget this late in the year. like BRP the Yankies financial year is end of january, when all budgets are finalised.
it would be good to get another brand involved. like Bullet our team is waiting eagliy on how Polaris want to approach racing at a factory level on SXS next year.

sxs your posts were funny considering the original post ended up being true, i doubt there would be an apoligy coming?
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Roycroft wrote:

Max444 wrote: One of my mates was just in at the polaris dealer and there is some race pack deal on RZR S....something to do with free gear and sponsorship $$$ i see this being correct, sponsorship $$ means money off or buget. any type of sponsorship is fantastic, i know for sure its pretty hard out there to get any discounts to go race, good on Polaris for showing us the $$ and the marketing budget this late in the year. like BRP the Yankies financial year is end of january, when all budgets are finalised. it would be good to get another brand involved. like Bullet our team is waiting eagliy on how Polaris want to approach racing at a factory level on SXS next year. sxs your posts were funny considering the original post ended up being true, i doubt there would be an apoligy coming?

And why would there be? the only way you would take any offence to my posts is if you read them that way. All I did was ask the pertinent question and info has finally been supplied by someone else not Max whom I have just asked for the info.

Statements of the ridiculous like that by people who havent even been part of the scene in building this dont have the credibility to be answered.

If you found mirth in them glad it lightened your day, are you going to thank me for making you happy? No? so why apologise for asking for the details and making sure this was above board especially when Max has rolled out an insult and not yet been able to provide the details.

No further comment is warranted.
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